Jolla Phone Pre-order campaign has started

“2000 units limited run · Will close when capacity is reached” noooo, just say that there will be 3rd batch if there is intrest :wink: Don’t limit the number so hardly. Still hoping to reach at least 10000 unit during this month :slight_smile:

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I imagine anything beyond batch 2 will simply be at full MSRP, given the amount they increased between 1 & 2. After all, they are eating margins by offering it at the lower prices.

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Ah yes, using Microsoft Word for a press release, containing the actual words “Europe that combines privacy, openness, and technological sovereignty.”

Seriously?

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Jolla underestimated the interest; as there were a 989 voters in the poll Next gen Jolla Phone , Jolla thought maybe they can reach 2× that number painfully in a month, and 3 days into it we’re thinking on what could happen if/when we go over 4000.

As a consequence, the pre-order page was a bit incomplete when they launched it, should have mentioned:

  • the actual amounts available in the first batch (Jolla said they had “some quota left” Jolla Phone Pre-order campaign has started - #318 by Jolla when reaching 2000 but not the exact number) and what happens after that;
  • in more detail what happens with non-EU/NO/CH purchasers.The webpage says it’s not a market but the form accepts foreign addresses and takes the money. A streamlined “my country is not in the list” providing an easy interface for non-European people to express their interest (not an email) would have helped.

I’m not trying to be negative about Jolla, it’s just a reflection on “rich people’s problem”, problems Jolla is lucky to have. It seems technology websites all copied the news and brought new people in. I’m hopeful the amount they raised can guarantee several full time employees to work on the OS.

  • Jolla got the pre-order money, and they’ll get the full order money later on.
  • Jolla will sell small accessories (other colour backplate, batteries, plastic case, glass cover) even though this is peanuts.
  • Jolla will sell OS licences to most if not all (I personally used SailfishOS for 4 years on the free licence, I don’t need anything the paid licence offers, later purchased one just to support the project).
  • A fraction of the Jolla Phone purchasers will take the opportunity for a voluntary subscription.

All of this is good for Jolla and therefore for our community but I feel Jolla could do a little more:

  1. Point us to accessories that Jolla tested and work well (e.g. USB-C splitters, audio DACs, Bluetooth accessories), selling them though links that get them a small profit.
  2. US competitor Purism sells SIM data plans (at abusive prices, $40-100/month for ridiculously small amounts of data).
  3. EU Competitor /e/ Murena sells cloud space.

Maybe Jolla could consider some of these ideas.

Given the list of virtual mobile phone operators that exist today, it seems it’s not too difficult to become one, and having Jolla in charge of negotiating contracts with physical operators would enable them to make sure VoLTE or 5G or any next technology will work on our phones.

Cloud space for the backups or images should be quite easy to set up. Encryption of the backup file on the device (without Jolla ever having the key) is fundamental and would cost some battery charge, but once per day and would not be significant.

It’s great that some of us took a voluntary subscription, but having actual services would help. I would be happy to use Jolla for services if Jolla would set up services that our community needs beyond OS updates.

NB I intended to reply to Jolla not @CLMA31

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Yeah. That is not a best look. Especially in Jolla’s case. @Jolla You might want to change the title of the wep bage that opens up when you open the press release. Hope it is the marketing acency that is using the MS Word not you.

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They could partner with Saily, which belongs to Nord Security (yes, the NordVPN people).

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I think it would be great if Jolla could offer cloud services integrated to Jolla ecosystem. Services could be provided by similarly minded partners (especially in the beginning). Jolla could bundle them and make them work seamlessly in Sailfish.

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Yes, I hope that it will be able to USB-C port replication adapters for keyboard, mouse and screen. Then I’ll sign up for it… I ordered a C2 a few weeks before this announcement.

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cannot BELIEVE that i missed the announcement. one busy weekend, and now im number 2850/2000 in batch#2. :’(

anyway, i am SO excited by support for NorthAmerican LTE bands! the specs are beyond what i expected. i hope they make it, and i hope that i can eventually get one, even if it is huge and has no 3.5mm.

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I would assume the Jolla phone would come with a license, like all previous Sailfish-preloaded phones. Charging extra for it would be an easy way to terrible PR.

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Where do you see your number? The e-mail confirmation I got has a purchase number in the 5000 which has to be something else. I purchased around ~1700, I don’t find that number in the email.

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So what is the easiest way to check whether my order is in batch 1 or 2? Is the cut sharp on 2000 units or is a bit flexible like 2500? Or?

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There was an official answer to a similar question above:

Extrapolating from the two posts above the answer, I interpret it as if you signed up during the weekend and you didn’t see any mention of a second batch on the store page, then your would be in batch #1. To be really sure you’d have to ask Jolla.

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i was just going by the counter on the store page when i bought it, not by anything in my voucher receipt. also…i just saw that they lowered the price of the voucher on my order to 78EUR instead of 99EUR, and now i’m worried that i don’t have any voucher at all. i dont know how i missed that when ordering, it definitely said 99EUR in my cart.

The voucher price is apparently a base value of 78 € plus VAT that depends on where you live and usually ~20%. I paid 97.02 €, other on this page reported paying 94 €. Since your address is outside EU you paid no VAT, you’ll pay VAT or import taxes at your customs.

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78€ is the price of your phone without VAT, so you have an order but for some reason VAT was not added which can be based on where you are located.

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Yeah, a bit unclear. They did, however, say that the first batch would be 2000 phones. What was unclear was what would happen if they reached the goal. I think the text they added on the purchase page about batch number two added some clarification, though.

I have an Xperia 10 III and it works very well on Sailfish OS. As of late I am using my Xperia 10 IV on Android but an thinking about going back to the 10 III. I enjoy using Sailfish OS so much more.

I also missed the opportunity with the Jolla phone so I am happy to be in on it this time around.

And I bought it for my company and because of that will not pay VAT to Jolla but will have to add it on my tax returns.

Holy smoke, 2998 Pre-orders as i write these lines :saluting_face: and im in batch one :face_savoring_food: Congrats Jolla :partying_face:

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