Cant Install apps from other stores on C2

Hi,
I’m trying for several days but I can’t install other apps apart from Jolla store.
I tried installing Openrepos → Storeman with out error but the icon is not there.
Also Chum shows no icon.
I allowed 3rd party apps. I think I read here someone else had the same problem but I can’t find the thread anymore.

Very strange behavior

OK Chum I finally managed via directlink through browser:
https://repo.sailfishos.org/obs/sailfishos:/chum/4.6_aarch64/aarch64/sailfishos-chum-gui-0.6.9-1.10.1.jolla.aarch64.rpm

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Finally managed to get Storeman installed
by using the 4.5 release zip from here: Releases · storeman-developers/harbour-storeman · GitHub
now I can see the app and after starting it directly updated and still works.

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Thank you! I was struggling to find a correct storeman rpm. You saved me :slight_smile:

Thank you for finding the correct GUI rpm. But do the repos work for you? I get “Failed to refresh…” even after doing pkcon refresh.

Put 4.6.0.15 in settings, no 5.0 repos yet

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Omg, i figure… I entered a previous 5.0.0.x in the override field… lol. Thanks for the swift response!

Yes this I also wanted to tell…change the version because almost all apps are not updated still

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@PatsJolla, @naokysatoh et al:

Finally managed to get Storeman installed by using the 4.5 release


I was struggling to find a correct storeman rpm.

Please do mind:

See also Feedback on Jolla C2 - #605 by olf.

P.S.: Storeman Installer v2.2.8 had a bug which prevented it from installing Storeman, Storeman Installer v2.2.6 and v2.2.7 were always working fine for all SailfishOS releases (i.e. including 4.6.0 and 5.0.0).

Unfortunately (but as usual), it took weeks until someone filed a proper bug report, then it was fixed within two days by releasing Storeman Installer v2.3.0.
Kudos to @norayr and @HenriVSL (maybe @henuka or @hene) for their valuable support.

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Sigh, another nonsensical and senseless rant from @throwaway69:

  • It is a core function of Storeman to inform about updated packages it handles, including itself.
    IOW, “It’s doubtful self updating is worthwhile” is pure nonsense.

  • “the comment-locked and non-working ‘installer’ on OR is still an issue as most people expect that to work”:
    It is not at all helpful (rather detrimental, because it steals my time) to read even more content- and context-free “does not work” messages. Either a proper bug report is filed at GitHub, or it is no bug for me.
    Please finally understand that your opinion is not relevant here, as long as you do not maintain Storeman and Storeman Installer (the same applies to the SailfishOS:Chum GUI app and its Installer).

  • “but you do you, rtfm and all”:
    Yes, it is Open Source Software I maintain, hence I primarily fulfil my own needs with it, but everybody is free to use it. But when people complain who obviously have not read the documentation I wrote and maintain, I first tell them that “Reading Thoroughly First is Mandatory (RTFM)”; while you repeatedly made me understand that you are a futile case, I know that most are able to properly read more than a few lines of text and ultimately comprehend it.
    I cannot comment on your “and all” statement, because I have no idea what it means.

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Please stop spreading falsehoods (i.e. lies), for example:

when beta is out, your installer doesn’t support by design

See Feedback on Jolla C2 - #498 by olf

your installer

No, I did not invent it, that was the original author of Storeman. But as you refuse to read properly, it is senseless to explain again, why the Storeman Installer (and the SailfishOS:Chum GUI Installer) make a whole lot of sense, technically and in terms of usability.

manual […] that is not even up to date

I am not aware that any part of the documentation is outdated. Be assured that I will gladly improve the documentation, if you would ever manage to properly address perceived flaws in a bug report than writing endless rants without real content and context in this forum.
Suggestion: Pose a PR at GitHub and I will review it (I think you know how to edit text).

Yes, make it easy to install, then see dozens of people claiming storeman doesn’t work, guess what 4.4 rpm works fine, but nooo, we can’t have that on OR, use buggy installer and use github to post a proper bug report or we will make fun of you and ignore you, just try to look from the other side for once, people can’t get that bloody installer to work, after each and every beta release, just close your eyes and chant RTFM louder
Literally Search results for 'storeman' - Sailfish OS Forum, you can do the same for all other C2 threads, everywhere people giving up on storeman because it’s broken, the 3 year old 4.4 rpm still works fine, installer is broken, gj not hosting it on openrepos

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All right, the same story, hence same (re-)action as last time:

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@throwaway69

Sailfish OS is by-and-large a community effort. @olf chooses to maintain these applications in their free time, as it scratches an itch for them. They have chosen to maintain these applications publicly. They could just as easily decided to keep any changes private and all those auto-updates you complain about wouldn’t exist in the first place, since you probably wouldn’t even be able to install the application (workarounds or otherwise) and you’d be stuck installing applications through a terminal.

Like any open source software, it is without warranty. It says just as much in its MIT license:

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED “AS IS”, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
IMPLIED

Now fortunately, the software is maintained and bug reports are accepted and reviewed. This isn’t a given or requirement in open source. If a bug report is filed in a manner that satisfies the developer’s requirements, it may be looked at and might even be fixed. The most productive thing you could do is work with the developer to understand what requirements are needed for the best possible outcome and best possible bug report. Alternatively, provide a patch. Don’t have the technical skills? Learn like everyone else in the field. Complaining is not productive, it helps nobody, it just makes you look like a dick.

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Hi Olf,
so far I do not have problems with Storeman. Already two times it informed me about a new version.
Currently I have 0.7.2-1.24.1.jolla which just updated yesterday.
Is this the newest or is there a newer?

With Storeman 0.7.2-1.24.1.jolla (aka 0.7.2-release2) installed you are all fine.

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