New Jolla Phone owner seeks advice

No, not between SDHC, SDXC and SDUC cards, i.e. SD card specifications since version 2.0.
But there was a backward-incompatible change by redefining the card-specific data register (CSD register in the SD card) by the SD card specification 2.0 (versus v1.x, i.e. from SDSC to SDHC).

Sounds a lot like it will be a SW-only update. GPT vs MBR and some new commands.

Yes, on the host side the device driver for SD cards must support the new register layout for SDHC cards, though this change is rather analogue to the change in the ATA specifications (by the T13 committee) which altered the addressing scheme from CHS- to LBR-addressing in ATA harddisk-drives.

So, as long as solely the aspect “size” is addressed, “requires only software changes” is basically true for the host side and I assume the SD card association will adhere to this in the future. Consequently I shortened “smartphone hardware” twice to “smartphones” in my prior posting.

And while it is also true, that SD cards mimic an MMC card at startup (1 bit data at 20, later 25 / 26 MHz = 2,5 to 3,2 MiB/s), the host must command them into higher speed transfer modes, for some of which the electrical interface (i.e. the “physical layer (PHY)”) is radically different: 1,8 volts operation (originally 3,3 volts only) for UHS-I, -II and -III, LVDS (low voltage differential signalling) for UHS-II and -III which doubles the data pins from 4 to 8, and the SDexpress specification (introduced with SD card specification 7.0) which adds even more mandatory pins, redefines the pins for a PCIe physical layer and uses the NVMe protocol (i.e. an additional, completely different set of registers). All these features must be supported by the host hardware and software to utilise them.
Side note: I believe to remember (but am too lazy to look that up), that SDexpress cards do not need to support the original MMC mode (3.3 V, 20 MHz, 1 bit), but they must at least support UHS-I mode (1,8 V, 100 MHz, 4 bits). In the context of this discussion this would constitute a breaking hardware change, as most older host devices will probe an SD card in MMC mode (which then fails, but the host’s device driver does not retry in UHS-I mode) and very old host device hardware (>> 5 years) might not support UHS-I mode.

But imagine transferring the content of a 2 TB SDXC card via High Speed (HS) mode (3.3 V, 50 MHz, 4 bits), which may be the fastest mode an old host device designed for SDHC cards supports, i.e. with 25 MB/s: 2.000.000 / 25 s = 80.000 seconds = 22,2 hours. Hence it is not practically feasible to handle so much data on an SD card in an old device, IMO.

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Also where would you take from or put all this data

Open question: is there any way to organise the app list alphabetically? As I install more and more stuff it’s starts getting untidy. May be an option somewhere but I really can’t see it. C2 with SailfishOS 5

If you tap and hold 3 seconds you can rearrange them manually. You can also group them into folders.

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Thanks! Absolute newbie here, I’m used to automatic arrange alphabetically and forget about it :slightly_smiling_face:

It could still be a useful feature, some other people have requested it before, e.g.:

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Please take a look at “Quick Launch” by Jaume Singla, when the first non-beta release of SailfishOS 5.0 has been published.

Unfortunately the SailfishOS:Chum community repository, which hosts this app is not easily accessible, until then. As a slightly tedious workaround on a Jolla C2 phone you may manually download this RPM file of the SailfishOS:Chum GUI application and install it, then enter 4.6.0.15 in its settings, which lets you search and install “Quick Launch” (and all other software in the SailfishOS:Chum community repository) easily.

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I still don’t see it on launcher.

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It’s easy to make a dropbox or onedrive account, but how can I easy see and retrieve the content?

And another question - is it possible to get rid of the delete message bar - “press to change your mind/cancel delete” and get immediate delete?

I don’t know how to get rid of it completely but you can usually just swipe the bar away to speed up the deletion process.

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Had forgotten that, thank you! However, would be nice to be able to get rid of it…

I have Storeman installed to my C2. But I don’t understand, how I can install apps from there. There is no “Install” option in pulldown-menu. Or I have totally wrong understanding about it…

Before you can install something, you have to add the package source

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Well, you have to add repository.

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How can I send MMS from Messages app? From Gallery with “Share” I can. But in Messages I cannot find the palce to change SMS to MMS.

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Not possible. At least yet.

Is there a way to import old SMS’s from Android to C2?

In short, yes.

Export your android SMSs to xml file and next Transformations XLS will insert SMSs to json file that have structure proper for sailfish. Last, commhistory-tool will insert SMS to sqlite database which stores messages in phone running under sailfish OS. Don’t have to know sql and db schemas:)

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I’m getting error, that xsltproc not found. Should xsltproc be part on OS or I should install it from somewhere?

Check this playlist it’s aimed to the newcomers: