Xperia 10 IV vs Xperia 10 V

Devices
#52

Thanks … blurry eyes.

Anyway, DKK 3999 is quite a bit more than I paid (DKK 2500) for a 10iii when they were on sale at El-Gigant which seems like quite a while ago.

#53

If it really is such a big effort on top (to just support the V) to officially support the IV (and it will be skipped) then at least i hope, if one time in the feature the binaries for the iv and android 13 have been released, someone at Jolla will try to run the release for V on an IV and check, how much effort it would be to support it officially, just from an economic point of view.

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#54

Not two but three. Also, why would objective facts need your confirmation?

After the Android 11 binaries from February 2022 which are used by SFOS, for the “Lena” platform (i.e. the 10 III) Sony then released:

Where did I ever say that I am talking about Android 11 based binaries only? And why would SFOS in your opinion be limited to only using Android 11 binaries? Of course, if only Jolla had the will for that and the required resources, they could update 10 III’s SFOS to use those newer Android 12 or 13 based binaries as well.

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#55

It is the match device + provider + SailfishOS. Changing either of the three, everything works.

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#56

Doesn’t that mean that the device works perfectly fine with your operator but SFOs is missing something?
Cause I just checked the 10 iii/iv/v and all of them have the exact same 2G/3G/4G bands except 5G (that we don’t have anyway), that V has some more bands and that’s it.
I don’t see any chance for any newer Xperia 10 to work for you if 10 III with sailfish doesn’t work.

#57

It’s a known issue with certain providers:

which Jolla never even started to tackle.

#58

i had the same problem with Talkmobile (UK).

solved by changing provider to Vodafone. which isn’t really a ‘solution’.

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#59

Repos for Xperia 10 IV showing up now.

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#60

And still no official announcement. Apparently, there are still too many devices available at stores. It just can’t be that easy.

And of course we won’t know if or when the 10 V might be supported the very same way, i.e. until a few days before it happens (if ever). Because it just can’t be that easy, too.

#61

There is a scheduled community meeting tomorrow, maybe an update there? The announcement probably comes when the port is finished or far come.

#62

Considering that AOSP binaries for the 10 IV have been available since July 2022, i.e. for more than 10 months, if the 10 IV port hasn’t been finished or far come for many months then all this doesn’t really make much sense as this whole Sony/AOSP path was originally meant to allegedly allow rapid and easy porting of SFOS to new devices.

#63

Here is the question and answer in the Community Meeting.

The question:
Will Xperia 10 IV receive an official port?

  • This topic has been brought up before.
  • It would just be good to know if there are any news on
    what the next supported device will be.
  • Is it plausable, possible or probable that the Xperia
    10 IV will reveive an official port?
  • Is there a designated place on the forum or elsewhere
    where one can find information about this, or could such a place be
    created?
  • I know of quite a few people who have a 10IV and are
    waiting to install Sailfish on it.
  • Should we just wait for any news to be published on
    the blog?
  • Thanks!

The Answer

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#64

I really hope they not continue and drop it.

#65

If they continue it is because the community helps or they see it as worth while to do it anyway. What is it to you? I guess your hope is that they rather focus on fixing the 10 III or start working on the 10 V? That I do understand.

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#66

Well, it’s kinda scary to hear that they’ve only done some “preliminary work” and haven’t yet decided, considering that the 10 IV binaries have been available since July 2022.

So if 10 V binaries come out in July-August 2023, when will they decide about it? In June 2024?

#67

Stop being such a negative Nelly. It helps nobody.
SFOS sales alone are very likely not profitable, treating it like any other large-scale consumer utility only sets you up for disappointment. Put yourself in their shoes for once.

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#68

Available yes, but Work in Progress, as you can see on this page.

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#69

And they still are Work in Progress, so what does it change?

I do. And hence the suggestion to skip the 10 IV and this way have more resources available to support the 10 V and possibly also be able to focus on it sooner than having to take care about the 10 IV first would allow them otherwise…

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#70

I think it is safe to assume they aren’t focusing on getting a port for 10 IV, maybe now putting it off for soon focusing on the 10 V. If there is enough community help with the 10 IV port it might happen, otherwise not. Maybe they view it as less work for them and therefore a viable option.

I don’t think it reasonable to assume they will be as late on the 10 V. Maybe they did the ground work on the 10 IV because of requests from the community and to make it easier for the community to contribute.

#71

I would really like if someone could at some tell us “this” is the situation we are in, that is what we have the capacity to do and we need help with those things from the community.
Just to be transparent, get the help they need and also for us to have the expectations we should.
It’s not a secret that the company is not doing great with what we already know, but if we know what to expect at least we might have been able to help one way or the other instead of only focusing in our issues, from the user side.

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