Sailfish Community News, 9th January 2025 - Mind2 update

Community News
#1

Sailfish OS update from Jolla

Happy new year 2025 and special thanks for the delightful warm Christmas and New Year greetings we received to the office – we’d like to thank you all for the past year and let’s make together a good year 2025!

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We clarified Jolla Mind2 pre-order voucher month ago. For all participants in the first Mind2 pre-order batch, we will waive the monthly Venho.AI subscription fee (9.99€ per month) for 2025 as a gesture of appreciation and ensuring you receive extra value for your support and participation. If you’ve pre-ordered a Jolla Mind2 Community Edition AI Computer, you should have received an email with instructions on how to claim your device. Please let us know, if you have not received this instruction email.

Similarly, we have decided that the Sailfish OS subscription (12 months) included for the first Jolla C2 batch will start running only after we get AppSupport mobile (cellular) data properly working for Jolla C2 – target being this month. In the current public release mobile data does not work with AppSupport (i.e. with Android applications) and in the meanwhile you can use WiFi. It takes still a bit that we get changes integrated and thru the internal testing. After internal testing, we release fixes first to Community Beta (CBeta) and, as usual, after feedback to all units. As communicated, your C2 won’t stop working after the first year of subscription, and you can freely choose whether to continue the subscription to enjoy automatic SW upgrades and support Saiflish OS development further.

Regarding Jolla Mind2, please note the status update by Antti in the Discord channel:

  • Your devices are in Finland, fully assembled and ready to go.
  • All core functionalities for the first release are there, including email, the knowledge base (memory), chat, and search. They are very basic at first but will improve in the becoming releases
  • Our team is actively testing the software, fixing bugs, and fine-tuning the user experience.

Please be welcome to dive deeper into the details and discuss the latest developments of Jolla Mind2 with the Jolla team and other enthusiasts in the Mind2 community Discord channel.

Repository roundup

Still many package upgrades from various upstreams, which bring newer functionalities or security fixes. It’s also noticeable to mention various tweaks contributed by other community members, fixing issues when using packages originating from Sailfish OS, in a different environment or distribution. One can also mention the preparation work done by mal and others to fix building issues with newer GCC versions like 13 or 14.

Network, communication and telephony stack

  • nfcd, the daemon for near field communication, mariogrip avoided testing for access denied when dbusaccess is not used and access is always granted.
  • ofono, the telephony library, mal backported several fixes from upstream.
  • libqofono, the QML bindings to Ofono, NotKit made usage of Q_SLOTS so the project can be compiled with QT_NO_KEYWORD flag.
  • telepathy-glib, GObject interface to telepathy, pvuorela updated it to 0.24.2.

Main interface

  • lipstick, the home screen code (open source parts), pvuorela fixed wheel events not sent to an application without having a mouse click before.

Low level libraries

Developer’s corner

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Once again, thank you all for the past year! Please do not hesitate to suggestions for future topics - feel free to write them in the comments below.

Welcome to join us at our community meetings on IRC, Matrix and Telegram. The next community meeting will be on the 16th January 2025 . Let’s keep on working together!

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#2

May I please kindly ask for an update on the Xperia 10 IV / V release based on the new fixed Sony binaries for Android 14 which were said to be the only missing piece? They’ve been available since November 29 (i.e. for almost 1,5 months), so does it bring us any closer to the availability of production-quality Xperia 10 IV / V release? It’s been 8 months in total since the day on which support for 10 IV and V was announced as “coming within 1-2 months” (and commercial release a month later), so please forgive me my impatience, especially that it’s been some 3-4 months since the previous time I asked. Thank you in advance.

P.S. I’ve already seen some leaks regarding the upcoming Xperia 10 VII (soon to replace the 10 VI that came out in the meantime), so saying that it’s getting quite late should not be seen as an exaggeration, especially for 10 IV owners who may soon start celebrating their phone model’s 3rd anniversary.

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#3

Status update on the Xperia 10 IV / 10 V

The best scenario where we’d flash only new Android 14 blobs is not enough – many of you have tested that as well. It was to told to us that release from Nov 29 is an alpha release and those blobs are still worked on. Very likely, we need to build new Sailfish OS version as well. Status is still this [Release notes] Sauna 4.6.0.15.

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Feedback on Xperia 10 V
#4

Interesting about the alpha status of the blobs, I didn’t notice any hint to this claim when I was visiting the Sony site to download the blobs, funny for a large scale company in my view.
Each day at least one new unexpected learning…

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#5

So basicly it is now, once again sony’s resposibility and offical sailfish release for IV/V is dependant on them pushing new blobs into existance?

We are doomed… Looks like my 10 III is out for yet another year.

#6

What’s wrong with your X10III? :wink:

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#7

Nothing’s wrong and I’m happy with the device but performance level of 10V is simply something I cannot pass just like that for yet another time… :slight_smile:

#8

Yea… I’m waiting to.

#9

subject to periodic slowdown/lockup, where the screen goes black and the red led comes on. usually results in a manual restart to fix.

generally slow to render webpages, and frequent reloading of already rendered pages.

#10

Nothing that I can relate to. But I’ve already independently upgraded browser to ESR 91.
All in all, my X10III is working quite nicely.

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#11

@rainemak thank you for your answer. Shortly speaking, as for the 10 IV / V we still don’t know anything…

May I take this opportunity to also ask if release of SFOS 5.0.x.x for the 10 III is on the horizon? Thank you.

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#12

Yes, Sailfish 5 is on the horizon. Updating AppSupport from 11 to 13 requires still more testing but so far looking good and no major issues found. Further, we have one connectivity issue that is affecting nemo user based devices – older flashed devices.

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#13

Great news, thank you! :+1: Well, then I guess that my 10 III will have to serve me well yet another year, while the 10 V will keep catching dust…

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#14

Thank you for the additional clarification.
Would it be possible to understand better what the “alpha” state entails? Not asking for a test report :wink: , but just to help grasping the situation
Stability problems? Some functional bugs? Do the new blobs provide better functionality than what the previous version did, or they dont help at all?

Reason for this is simple, i want a 5g sfos phone. Though i like the c2 idea alot, the lack of 5g is keeping me off from it. As I would still want to continue staying on sfos, tho, I want to understand if my (still) new xperia 10 iv will see sfos on it or not.

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#15

C2 does have 5G. (EDIT: Sorry about that. I has VoLTE. I realise my misunderstanding thanks to attah remark.) Not perfect but if you search forum you’ll see that’s not bad at all.

Same goes for other questions for rainemak. Info is already in here.

#16

No it doesn’t.

What’s your line of reasoning for that?

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#17

Who cares 'bout 5G, when 300mbps 4G+ is available…Come on - how many of U are using your pHONE to upload gigs of data on a daily basis?

P.S. Not a priority task for a current user in Bulgaria (EU) of any of the three operators available here, where fibre is widely available.

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#18

The xperia 10 iv that I was tricked into buying hastily by a promise of fast support has it. :slight_smile:

The same question could be turned around to jolla; why not release a phone with 5g?
The camera is nice however.

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#19

Ok, so you didn’t have a reason. Noted.

#20

Well yes and no. I spent some money for the xperia 10 iv already before the c2 announcement, dont see why i should have hedged on a second (less modern) phone anyways. Also, I like the form factor of the xperia 10. Devil’s in the details :wink:

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