For sure they lost some UI designers but they started to listen investors and investors want something more like Android.
Exactly! It’s important to keep in mind that they are in a bind here. Probably a large part of these new changes wouldn’t have been done in the way they were if not for their company customers and investors.
(I’m more and more finding myself in a position where I defend Jolla. It’s not my job and mostly I disagree with the newer design choices, too. Why won’t Jolla do it themselves and explain so it’s more comprehensible…I guess they’ve grown a bit tired of the sometimes very demanding community)
Have you deleted all photos in gallery? My mom did the same too! Twice! Now I’ve disabled pull-down menu in gallery! How? in /usr/share/jolla-gallery/pages/GalleryGridPage.qml I’ve commented lines from 86 to 112. Note: after each update you need to do this again.
I think the majority of the changes they make are for the better, actually. It’s just the remorse timer that’s no longer as straightforward to use. Oh, and they never reverted the change that made the Notes app cover unusable. No explanation was ever given for why they changed it.
OK, sorry for being vague. No NFC paying support. Some time ago all my banks ceased it’s own NFC payment support, now it’s possible only on OS/manufacturer level (like Google Pay, Samsung Pay, Huawei Pay, Apple Pay). Afaik there is no such service by Sailfish.
Why you hate/afraid of Google so much? Our payments are logged/tracked anyway (by the merchants, banks, tax departments etc) and Google is at the end of list of actors I’m concerned of.
Yes, it’s not true for Android 7 at least. Also for iOS, Windows, Ubuntu.
Why stick to OSes?
These are basic usability guidlines like Nielsen’s heuristics (https://www.nngroup.com/articles/ten-usability-heuristics/):
#5: Error prevention
Even better than good error messages is a careful design which prevents a problem from occurring in the first place. Either eliminate error-prone conditions or check for them and present users with a confirmation option before they commit to the action.
#9: Help users recognize, diagnose, and recover from errors
Error messages should be expressed in plain language (no codes), precisely indicate the problem, and constructively suggest a solution.
By the way there no Google pay and Google Services at all (!) on the latest Huawei/Honor devices that are running on Android.
Get out of your bubble please.
Because they’re evil.
A very well-reasoned post.
Placing “x” in the remorse timer is really unintuitive. When I first time used it I was thinking, that pressing x would cancel the deletion :-((
You can change the x into a checkmark icon or another icon you want to have. Please look at the thread Remorse timer layout under the category Design. I did so and it works fine. It’s described in detail with all necessary paths (where the icons are) in my post #18 of the mentioned thread.
Changed the heading of this thread so that it better tells what is being discussed here.
It is possible. Looking at the topics I came to the same conclusion and merged the topics.
Is merging topics supposed to just add the conversation of the first to the second ? Now we have a message above from yesterday that’s followed by a message from a month ago. I think the continuity of the discussion is kind of broken now
Well, I think if it merged the messages e.g. by sorting by date, the continuity would be even more broken. Lesson learned, probably shouldn’t merge discussions when both of the topics have as many posts as these had.
I see it upcoming, that the remorse timer will be gone in the next SFOS edition…
An IMHO possible solution and compromise would be to make a trash bin but with an option in the trash bin settings to immediately shred files thrown into the trash bin.
I don’t want to have double work with deleting files and want to get the memory space free immediately if I delete something. And I want to be save that they are really deleted.
edit: Another compromise would be a simple confirmation dialog “definitive delete” or “abort”, as every OS on computers and smartphones has. Can also be labeled “shred file” / “keep file”.
The remorse timer was typical SFOS style and I liked it…
Jolla could remove that stupid “x” and let people swipe away the remorse timer if they want it to be gone earlier.
Yes, this would be an an acceptable compromise, and
Yes, the x is not suitable in the context.
But as I described above, I changed the x into a checkmark and tapping is more comfortable for me than swiping. It’s because with tapping I can see everything I can currently do and have some icon for all possible actions, while with swiping I have to always remember on it.