[Release notes] Tampella 5.0.0.29 for Jolla C2

Perhaps, yes, but Jolla advises not to do that.

What about the downloading the aarch64 rpm from OpenRepos manually, copying it on the phone and manual installation?

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It depends on how you see this device: as a tinker tool or as a pre flashed smartphone. Big Tech has changed society to such a degree that we need a phone for more things that ten years ago. I don’t have many demands, just the basics. They should work. On the C2 I ordered WLAN works, that’s something, but it is not enough.

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I have Done that already. The file appears in Files/downloads. I can install it but no app appears.

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Then definitively something is incompatible with the new SFOS system and there’s no other way than waiting for a fix or a workaround coming from a more skilled coder than me (I’m only experimenter, no coder).
At present state, as I see the situation from far away, not owning a C2 device, this is definitively a tinker tool at the moment.

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This is not correct. Many apps that you can install on e.g. an Xperia 10 II (64 bit device) don’t show up on the Jolla Store on the C2. For example, Sailfish Connect.

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I tried that first, but I haf no success … I have to mention, too, that it was under the prior image of SFOS, so the 5.0.0.21


Iw works great for me on C2.

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I know it works, but on the C2, you can only find it on OpenRepos. The Jolla Store is missing loads of applications for no apparent reason.

Edit: I think I’m mistaken, Sailfish Connect doesn’t exist on the Jolla Store on my Xperia 10 II either. I’m sure it was there before…

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With the C2 you’re on a newer SFOS system version that doesn’t yet exist for the X10-II. So the X10-II looks on another list than the C2.

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Hasn’t it been the idea behind both Jolla C phones, that they are reference devices for app developers? People have done their buying decisions based mostly, if not solely, on the idea of pre-flashed SFOS on the device, and are now impatient, or even angry, that the new hardware and upcoming new major release of SFOS wasn’t perfect out of the box.

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I don’t know how to say it, but ‘EXACTLY!’ People that don’t want to tinker with the C2, shouldn’t buy one. Me, myself probably was stupid enough to reboot the thing before home space encryption was fully done, so I had to return the thing to Jolla for re-flash. I actually feel embarrassed to have done such a stupidity and I am very grateful that Jolla corrects my mistake.

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Where was mentioned that the C2 would be a reference device or an OS in beta? I haven’t seen it. Also we are now supposed to pay for updates and/or bug fixes with a subscription model. If this device would have been for devs only I would not have bought it.

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Well its mentioned as community device.
Jolla 1 was beta when it came out, Jolla Tablet and Jolla C was beta devices and Jolla C2 also.

Of course it will mature over time but anyway. You could return the device when you don’t want to wait. Or you can resell it for the same price.

there are many geeks and devs here, who missed it and would be very thankfull when you sell it

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Sorry, I disagree. This time it is different because of the subscription model. In your reasoning the community exists out of devs/technicians only, not of ordinary users/testers. The original goal of Jolla/Sailfish was that it was for everyone. It was meant to break the duopoly, a serious alternative to A and G.
Perhaps there should be more clarity about this. Jolla should then advertise its OS as especially meant for tech people.

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IMHO Unfortunately not. Jolla will never break the duopoly, because the simple 08/15 customer doesn’t care about privacy. The normal user doesn’t need an open, privacy-oriented European Linux Mobile OS.
Its a system for Devs, geeks, nerds, people who believe in privacy, in FOSS and all this values.

But unfortunately it has its price. It will NEVER be as stable as iOS/Android. Yes, with every day its got better and better, but a small 40-Man company simply can’t fight against the big two.

So if you want an OS which is very stable, polished and everything works out of the box, i think an open Android like AOSP would be a better choice for you.

Again, this is only my opinion. Its OK, when you see it from different perspective. Luckily, everyone is different.

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I’m not a developer, I like the simple Sailfish OS operating system. I can manage the settings here.
With Android I have so many options that I’d rather not venture into that jungle.
Sometimes you have to try it the other way round, sometimes make a compromise, and sometimes do without…

Thanks for 5.0.0.29. Film recording in camera doesn’t work yet. Some Android apps don’t produce any sound yet. (chime me big ben / kaff country, great circle media, app version 2.5.0,)

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Just to mention: AOSP does not work stable our of the box: you need to compile and flash it, and on the Xperia 10 V camera and SD do NOT work.
Even AOSP is not usable for average joe without sone fiddling , I fear there is no way around the preinstalled Android or iOS for them

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I have only one Phone with AOSP (LineageOS) on a Fairphone FP2 for some apps, which rely on BT.
It was readymade package which was ready oob and flashed via TWRP Recovery.

So no building, no compiling, anything oob.
But for Sony Xperias - i agree, its a bit complicated process.

I should say they do need it, they just don’t know it. :wink:

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