This is a “it depends” answer… I likely would, if it is not too expensive (meaning 800 Euro + is a little steep) and it is a nice one. If it is less expensive I would maybe even buy it if it is only medioca just for the support.
Same, but for me, the threshold is about halve.
yes! The C2 has been a bit deluding hardware-wise and optimizing-wise, so a better cpu is sure to be welcomed
All Finnish apps like net banking, HSL work well for me on C2 and Xperia 10III. It takes some more efforts to get MicroG working correctly. However I’m happy to support Jolla also on better hardware.
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I’d prefer improvements on the software side on the existing phones.
Volla released the Quintus with Ubuntu Touch. How do I benefit from great hardware if the software can’t handle it? Still no fingerprint, browser is horribly slow and doesn’t even load some pages and stuff like that…
So please, software first and not more hardware, that can’t perform due to that…
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I voted yes and I am looking forward to a commercially available Jolla 2. This implicates that I will buy it. Sailfish was and is my favorite system. Someone placed Jolla’s plan on Bluesky and I shared it. Although I know it’s not Santa Claus I have some wishes. It doesn’t need to be a flagship device, but something upper midrange is fine. Hardware: easy repairable, possibility to replace the battery, medium size but no banana model. Thinking of Jolla 1 just a bit bigger, or the size of a Pixel 5, or Volla 22. Better sound than the C2, good camera’s.
Software: GPS, video calling, VoLTE, decent camera software. I hope Jolla’s team succeeds.
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Jolla’s denying of cooperation (if it’s true) is insufferable. I read many times in the last years, that Volla was interested to cooperate and Jolla denied for reasons unknown to the public.
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Voted.
I will buy it if it is as usable daily as my XA2.
And not more than 400€.
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Surely i’d like to buy it, if it would exist. Hoping it’ll work or bugs are fixable, but at least for the collection.
under condition that it is self-reflashable in case of serious system damage. Not the way as C2 was at the beginning.
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Im really only in the market for a compact phone, so i wont buy at current voted screen size
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I will wait for the aspect ratio. I like bigger screens, but I would prefer 16:9 5.5" screen over longish 21:9 6.3" screen.
In my old Blackberry Passport 1:1 screen with 4.5" is better for reading than xperias 21:9 format 6” screen, and therefore I would prefer the smaller screen compared to longish ugly xperia screen
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Frankly, I never consider hardware when thinking about Sailfish OS as I cannot believe that with 4-6GB of RAM the OS closes open applications regularly and at random.
I will buy the Next Gen OS, provided some tweaks have been made and also sharing and basic communication protocols have finally been integrated again to avoid using “apps” that may be the reason for above mentioned issues (make integrated SIP, XMPP, Wire, Jitsi,..)
hardware wise I care only about it having decent enough stereo speakers (big neglect) to save me from using earphones and talking with the device next to the ear, quality 3.5mm line output at the level of let’s say Xperia X. About form factors, repairablility, eye friendly displays, I frankly gave up.. primitive times you know.
Yes I would buy the next phone anyway like I bought any of the device before. Since 2014 I’ve been using Sailfish OS.
Since than none of the phones been working without problems from the very beginning. There have been more or less enormous bugs on any of the devices.
People who think they get a nearly pefect working phone from the start better choose an apple or android device.
Jolla with their limited recources will never be able to manage releasing a nearly bugless phone from the start.
When I bought the C2 more than one year ago I was aware the C2 will not be working reliable from the beginning. And yes I was one of the guys who had to send the device back to Finland to get it reflashed.
By the way the C2 is a Community phone. That means the development has not been ended. We are not beta-testers we are alpha-testers.
My C2 is still waiting in the drawer. Every now and then I take it for fun or upating it. Maybe I take it for my daily driver after the next one or two updates.
As for the next phone every one should keep in mind the company Jolla is a small one. They need to make more mony on each device they sell than the big fishes ( by the way the big fishes earn mony with their customers data too as everybody knows). So if they offer you a lower/mid price phone like the C2 you get entrylevel hardware. If you want a top device you have to invest more money compared when buying e.g. apple or samsung. And keep in mind the software support in general last longer compred to android devices.
For 300 or 400€ you you can not expect a middleclass hardware with a nice working OS from the from the very beginng. It would be nice but not realistic.
The size of the display: Yes it is nice carrying the device in the pocket. But in future it will be more necessary to use the phone for everything. The smaller a phones display the harder to read, to type e-mails, messages, doing banking or internet over all to handle the device.
In my eyes the displaysize of the C2 is advanced.
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Well said! Jolla is in the end OS company, which on other hand needs good platform to develop on. I am very new on this forum and I understand very little of software, but to me the Sony road at least look like it hasn’t been easiest as it relies heavily on Sony (at least to my understanding). Jolla needs to do business with what it does, ultimate goal is to be profitable. And as mentioned they don’t get any revenue by selling the data so if they take the risk and sells any phone directly to end customer they need to take the margins from HW. I would imagine that the next phone also needs to have about 50% (VAT 0%) profit margin to be feasible as it might be with C2. We can’t expect the same HW we would get with same price from other brands. Yes Apple might have similar margins, but their volume is “a little bit” bigger. Until Jolla is in that league, the HW will also pay part of the OS.
If Jolla launches next gen phone, which might even be J2 and not community edition, they have to platforms to offer. One for those who value price and still want to use SFOS and one for those who want more out of phone while still enjoying SFOS. I personally hope that next gen phone cost at least 600€ (with VAT) so that we can have HW that is at least twice as good as C2. With that I still wouldn’t imagine to have super phone, but there is no point to aim under 500€ category. Jolla just can’t do charity and the specs wouldn’t differ that much of C2 which would mean that Jolla has two low tier phones. SFOS users deserve one upper mid class (or even “flagship”) phone which will have AAS and is official supported. That if something could bring noobies like myself to SFOS.
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I will because my 10 III popped its backcover off with a swollen battery recently, and I know a lot of people that will because of that development^^^
Have had Sailfish as DD since day 1, with a year on an iphone recently because of work stuff. The iPhone has a phenomenal camera, but it still feels like a toy when it comes to being a smartphone. No syncthing is a deal breaker, and I miss containers and terminal access.
If there was a half decent camera support on Sailfish I’d love it, but it’s so bad I just take a dedicated camera instead.
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It’s easy to change the battery of the Xperia 10 III if the phone itself still working ;-).
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Being forced to use the phone for “everything” is a recurring theme
Next Gen could be first gen Jolla concept:
The “Other Half” heavily “secured” Android back cover running banking, digital ID, CBDC+ mish mash to make you a “exemplary citizen” despite tendency to like Sailfish OS and deviate from the set crowd trajectory.
It would include a couple of elegant options to share it’s screen output in Sailfish OS but can be used stand alone, enabled with a hardware button.
Main phone clean and lean Sailfish OS with mature browser and, integrated communication protocols and all the pleasant & creative stuff.
Ok back to my cage..
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I don’t ask much but if the device has ay least middle range chipset, I might. C2 works okay but overall slow. I’d like to see if SFOS works butter as Android (mid-range) competiters
This is an opportunity for Jolla to fix the mistake that they keep making:
Under-spec’ing the phone.
I left Sailfish because I needed better hardware, but I really, really want to come back. I’m happy for there to be the cheap options, but there’s so much more that can be done with higher end hardware.
But most importantly, don’t cheap out on the RAM or display. 1080p should be absolutely bare minimum.
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I totally agree. 3 GB RAM made me jump off the wagon. I would gladly return.