I guess we will see when the OS arrives.
The phone itself doesn’t have a dedicated indicator LED. It doesn’t have to, because the AMOLED screen can function as an indicator. Just light a couple of LEDs on the screen in some color for notification. In LCD this would cost a lot of energy, because it needs backlight, but this is not the case with AMOLED. Android users did report to not have a noticeable energy drain because of this. So it has (or can possibly have) a good functioning LED indicator on android, although not dedicated. But I think it will need proper software support from SailfishOS to work. I don’t have experience in OS development or Sailfish hardware adaption and such, so I could be wrong about that.
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Thank you for your thoughts!
Hard to believe different OS variants will be released for the Xperia IV (accessing its built-in LED) and the C2/Xperia V (with a screen-based notification area).
But we’ll see!
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There are many variants, right? XA2 variants, 10, 10II, 10III, all different hardware. The IV and V are the least different of them all. There must be code to turn the pixels on and off, but after that, I think it should be very, very easy to implement. A small update in the subroutine, if dededicated_indicator_exists then … else … and point to the right code to display. Everything that needs the indicator can then just run indicator_blink() or something like that. No need for different OS variants, because no one will really notice those couple hundreds of bytes, and just push the code that lights pixels to phones that will never run it as well. But again, I might be wrong about this. It just intuitively feels pretty easy to change the existing code to let it run the code you need.
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The phone doesn’t have to have a LED when
- It has an oled screen (preferably LTPO)
- Software has proper always on display functionality
- Software has proper power management so that always on won’t have a measurable impact in everyday use
You think C2 has any of the above?
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It doesn’t have to, because the AMOLED screen can function as an indicator.
Uh wow. Just realized that it indeed has AMOLED like the good old N9 had. So maybe we can get clock+indicators back even if screen is turned of. I think there was some tweak with /proc-system available to tunr it on, IIRC, wasn’t there?
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I really hope it can be enabled one way or another. Even just a dot on the display would be helpful.
I can’t find words to describe what I think about companies removing elements as cheap as a LED diode.
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It is not explicitly stated the c2 has a amoled neither by jolla nor reeder. However it is very unlikely the screen with resolution of 1600x720 and 6.7 inch is going to be a amoled. I would bet a IPS.
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There are unofficial sources like reviews and such of the reeder phone this is based on (reeder s19 max pro s if I remember correctly), that confirm the IPS display.
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The main reason for choosing C2 over 10 V for me would be better hardware support, however it seems like Jolla is postponing SFOS for 10iv + v to hopefully getting a stable base.
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It seems that Jolla ist postponing also C2 for some reasons.
It’s Jolla, we all know them… 
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No, they are not. They said they should start shipping devices at the end of August, and final payment will be asked for when they are ready to start delivery.
At the moment it is not. They said August / likely end of August with first shipments. At the moment it is still a little over 2 weeks in August, so they are clearly not over the given date till now. You can start with these statements on 1st of September if shipping hasn’t started then (and shipping doesn’t mean when it arrives at your place but the send date), but right now it is all as promised.
But the final payment is already delayed, so it is likely, that the C2 will be delayed, too.
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I’ll not guess around… maybe they hold it back as they said:
“We will only put out final pay when we are ready to ship it.” (paraphrased)
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This is not by any means technical data so use it at your own discretion.
I can add from my side, while this cannot be a decider, it may work as a way to compare what to expect from mentioned device. Antutu score. I build a simple image you can use to compare. One can see that C2 is much more powerfull than 10 II but slower than 10 III. You can also see with this how much more powerfull is each device. You’ll need perofrmance of 6,14 XA2’s to reach performance level of 10 V.
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Although very informative, and thank you for the effort, I think this is not the most important measure. I do not play aaa games on my phone, nor do I big spreadsheets, low latency sound synthesis, or other stuff that relies heavily on calculation performance.
I think for most people, or at least for me, more important is being able to copy a password from the password manager without the browser to close, or continue listening to music or youtube in the background, while using other apps, without the music or youtube app to close.
EDIT: but it is reassuring that the C2 falls in between the II and III. It is faster than I thought (feared). The 10 II is more than fast enough for me.
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But this is it. Today evey task realies heavily on calculation performance. Just check how much complex web pages become. So even without big spreadsheets or games you need raw performance just to keep your platform running smoothly while browsing internet.
And taking this to a simpler world. If your phones sucks at games it will suck at browsing or doing what-else-ever 
Please, can we have an example for this?
I’m working on a native spreadsheet app. So I can state my old Sony X is fast enough (at least when my upcoming release is published (soon 
of course)
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Examples are above. Beyond this ask yourself what calculation performance is
Also, as a total self-educated opinion C2 should be similar in performance to 10 III. So for everyone with device lower than 10 III buying a C2 should be an upgrade. For owner of 10 III in purely performance stand point it makes no sense (But still based on numbers only). If you’re looking for something more powerfull than 10 III simply pick IV&V.
There is also some quarks that only sfos user knows that, support might me an example, that make determination of one’s phones better than the other almost impossible. (I still find XA2 somewhat fine with how it performance although it is lowest in-performance-benchmark score)
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