My choice is the 10V. Meh phone but at least I like it as a toy.
First let’s hope that it will be usable at launch or in the near future, then we see.
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Jolla C was usable from the start and somehow avoided all the pitfalls of xperias (gps issues, battery drain issues, oom, echo, you name it, all thanks to sony using second rate developers to keep their secret holy closed source bits safe from stallman)
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JC is still very usable. Just not with AAS.
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C was better than J1 and yes it didn’t share many of the issues we have today, but it wasn’t a perfect phone.
I still have it.
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Lol, noone claimed perfect, subpar screen resolution/brightness, no nfc, compass, slow cpu etc etc, most just happen to also apply to c2, so yeah, time will tell if my V or C2 will end up in the drawer
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I would choose 10 IV
- 10 V: if money is not a problem
- 10 IV second hand for 250 € + 1 SFOS licence 60 € for 1 year = 310 €
- C2: 299 € already including 1 year SFOS licence
The 10 IV is a better toy than the C2, for an irrelevant price difference if you are lucky on the second hand market.
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I know Jolla announced future support for the xperia 10-iv and v, but I can’t find info for model numbers they will support. There are two different model numbers for each. Will Jolla support both models for these two devices?
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I added zRAM (4GB) to the Xperia 10 III. Then the browser sometimes takes more than 1,5 GB from them but running all the time in the background without being killed.
It’s just like an old dinosaur 
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Hi,
please can you tell who to do this in my sony 10III?
This should work. The whole thread is very interesting.
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You totally left out the most important difference between C1 and 10 V for some of us:
C2 comes with SFOS preinstalled, while 10 V requires the buyer to start acting like a hacker and perform cumbersome actions that may possibly brick the whole phone.
For those who already are hackers, that may not be important. But one should anyhow realize that if SFOS shall obtain a larger penetration in the market, people will need to be able to just buy a phone and start using it.
After my preinstalled J1 and Intex phones died, I’ve been forced to install SFOS on the several subsequent Sony phones I’ve used, and normally there’s been some kind of snag that I’ve needed to consult others on for sorting out. For no-hackers one shall be really dedicated to the cause for an independent phoneOS to go through it.
I’ve a couple of 10 V waiting in reserve for the demise of my current 10 II daily driver, which I bought before I knew about C2. If C2 perform reasonably stable for basic operations, they may never have SFOS installed.
I believe there are more people than me who are privacy concerned, who may be willing to buy a simple and weaker non-android phone if relatively easily available. (As such I’m more concerned about SFOS marketing challenges than the technical prospects.)
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I think the C2 is based on an existing android model. I would imagine there will be some sort of AOSP layer on C2 and SFOS will run on top. If that’s correct we have the same scenario with xperia models, the only difference is that users do not need to unlock the device, and flash the firmware, etc. Also the company that produces C2 is willing to collaborate more closely with Jolla, therefore some bugs at phone drivers will be addressed more easier compared to the sony ones?
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Spoiler: that has been true for all previous models, except maybe the tablet.
Hmmm, it’s going to be interesting to choose between those two. I would like to get the C2 to give Jolla some support cash, but Xperia has one big advantage that I haven’t seen mentioned yet…IT HAS NO STUPID NOTCH ON THE DISPLAY (yes, it irks me THAT much) 
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Oh yeah — the notch…
Every time I start considering the C2 for purchase the notch stops me.
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I am curious whether the AndroidApp Support will be available on the Xperia day 1, or released later. That will influence my purchasing decision a bit. Shame it doesn’t have wireless charging, I got kinda used to it with Volla 22.
It has been already confirmed — released later.
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Coolies. I might yoink it later then.
Does anybody know whether the C2 has a notifications LED like the Xperia 10 IV (and unlike the 10 V) ?
I’ve become pretty dependent on this little feature.
(Edit: confused the Xperia models)