Fillip, my point about the business processes and growing as company is also that you have now enlarged customer base and the stream of bug and inconvinience reports will increase drastically. The question is what Jolla will do with those reports? Will it simply ignore that like slow dinosaur or will gain from the momentum and prioritize discovered clusters of issues to quickly respond with bugfixes or clarifications changing the development backlog items? How else the community can help the team to improve usage experience ?
With the growth of these clusters you mentioned, the community actually helps quite a lot to some extent. Some people even report the solution along with the bug. I’m also new to the community, like you, and I think we’ll understand this better by looking at what has and hasn’t changed during the six months after we get the Jolla phone.
If you ask me, Jolla already moves forward with the community as much as possible in almost everything it does. Take the phone they released, for example: an update comes out, they look at the bugs reported in that update, and they try to fix them immediately. So it’s actually a good approach—they create a feedback loop together with the community and overcome most problems that way.
The only real issue is whether Jolla will be able to handle it without losing these people once the user base becomes much larger. Right now, people let a lot of things slide and say, “It happens, it’s not a problem,” but I’m sure that if this phone had sold 10 million units, nobody would be so forgiving 
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Don’t take it personally. You’re not the first, second or even third person to come to the forums and start giving their opinions and tips on how Jolla should run their business. Some of those people have quickly become angry ranters and eventually turned into full-blown trolls, and we don’t want that to happen to you.
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Hey buddy, no worries. 
I’m not here to troll anyone. I was just sharing my honest thoughts on the topic. Maybe a bit emotional, but genuine. I hope it’s at least somewhat helpful to the Jolla team.
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Every newcomer offering their generic 5 cents is getting really tiresome. Surely it is understandable that “obvious things” equally obviously have been discussed before?
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Attah, please just be polite to people. I’m new here and wasn’t trying to repeat old debates intentionally. I just wanted to share my perspective. If these topics have already been discussed, I’d be happy to read those earlier discussions. I didn’t mean to insult anyone.
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It’s part of a forum that some topics become evergreens, that get brought up again and again. There needs to be boundaries that it does not get out of hand, but everyone should be allowed to bring up their opinions and thoughts - as long as they are somehow related to SailfishOS or Jolla in general.
I was a long-time viewer for some years, but only recently signed up and posted myself. I waited that long because of the attitude some of the regulars here have towards newcomers and repeated topics. In general this is an awesome community we have here, but sometimes there is just a little bit too much elitism.
Let’s all just be a little bit more forgiving, nudge newcomers to existing topics (if there is already a lively discussion about exactly that topic), not complain when they resurrect them (as there seems to be more need for discussion) and be welcoming overall.
We’re a small group of people with a nieche interest. Fresh thoughts, even on things that have been discussed before, are beneficial to us all.
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The rules were probably made by people who are not morons themselves and couldn’t imagine that someone new would come in and, instead of reading the room, have the arrogance to think their intelligence is so far above everyone else’s that they feel compelled to offer unsolicited advice because, surely, their idea hasn’t been discussed to death since 2013.
I don’t mean any specific person by this, especially not you, so please don’t take it as a personal attack. I’m just trying to explain why the rules might not address this issue directly.
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Guys, please come down from the ivory tower and meet newcomers halfway. Otherwise, it’s too easy to see every new member as arrogant when they’re simply unfamiliar with the forum’s history. Time is valuable for newcomers too, and not everyone can read through years of old discussions before joining the conversation. Fresh perspectives can still be valuable, and open discussion helps ensure that important issues and high-priority bugs get the attention they deserve. I’ll stop here. Have a great evening!
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That’s not what I meant. I specifically meant people that are so full of themselves they don’t even recognize their bright idea is either so straight forward or so stupid, it must have been discussed before.
Cmoon, even if it have been discussed, new people want to join the conversation. My first topic ever created here was: What would be best strategy for Jolla going forward?
Sure, I spended tens of hours reading before hand. But I’m sure somewhere somebody already talked about the points I had. I just didn’t find them and wanted to participate in conversation. I don’t expect everyone doing as intensive research beforehand as I did, it is okay for people to explore.
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People can also just ignore discussions that they have seen and participated in before. I think it is good that people express their opinions, if nothing else comes out if it then at least Jolla can see what comes up the most often.
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Please be aware that some very vocal users here have a habit to teach newcomers what to do. You can recognise them by phrases like go back to Android, search before posting, and the like, usually in a haughty and unfriendly manner. The best suggestion is to ignore them and go on.
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I like people like you—that’s the kind of innovative mindset I’m talking about. Don’t care about anyone more than necessary. Was there any malicious intent behind what you said? From what I read, logically, there wasn’t. No one has the right to judge you with prejudice. End of story.
Actually, if someone starts a new topic, then I generally don’t even mind because it’s easy to just not look at that topic and leave them alone to wallow in their superiority complex.
What really annoys me is when people hijack a thread because that’s much harder to ignore.
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Yeah, this happens quite often, and I don’t like it either. But sometimes you’re forced into it because you’re discussing something with someone under the exact topic in question and giving examples, yet when the other person responds with, “What does that have to do with anything?”, the conversation inevitably starts drifting off-topic right there.
Normally, if people just stayed on the subject being discussed, neither the topic nor anything else would change. But sometimes it has to change because, as they say, one question always leads to another. That’s exactly what this is like.
Soooo, I watched the Jolla Day 1 presentation online.
Was it just me, or did YOU possible had the same bad feeling, when they talked about the future of Jolla?
If I remember correctly, they said something like:
2026 they concentrate their efforts on the phone and then on AI stuff.
Reading through alot of old forum posts, I get the impression, that even the current efforts on sailfiahOS are not enough to improve siginficantly the software, especially when the user base has increased so much and the demands with it as well. I just fear that they have too many projects running the same time, with he same staff and consequently mess up all of them.
Just my 5cent, without any insights etc….
(I recognize, that obviously a lot of improvements have been done to sailfiahOS with the release of phone 2.)
Cheers
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I’m pretty sure that Jolla will not go in to a maintaince mode in 2027 when it comes to SFOS. But perhaps focus will be on making it into a possible AI device for their upcoming AI service.
And I have no inside info - so this is also just my 5 cents…
I would love to see roadmap, but I am sure that Jolla has been burnt before when changing their plans.
And I do not mind that also Jolla wants to do some AI with their phones. I am just not sure if I will be part of it. I hope to be able use our on prem AIs at work from my phone. But Jolla can prove me wrong…
Angry Birds from Rovio…
when login dialog is opened automatically by app
if you open from login dialog another app, such as browser edge to read information from rovio site by clicking a link on the dialog. Looks like repaint thread is blocked by a modal dialog…
Another example: install an app from Aurora Store. Once the installation is complete, you’ll see an Installed button on the app’s page in Aurora Store. Tap that button to open the app. The app will launch normally.
Now open the Sailfish OS app switcher. Instead of the app’s preview, you’ll see a black rectangle.