Did you also read the part where 57% of the voters wanted a phone that costs less than 600€ and only 9% were voting for 800+€ price point? Would the phone been more appealing to you if it had better specs, but the price was, let’s say 1500€ for example?
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That’s a warm welcome… 
Actually, as I had clearly stated, I came here to learn, and I did.
BUT, you’re right. I really didn’t intend to ask. I got lots of mixed
feedback anyway.
I learned what “community design” meant in this particular case.
And, it’s also quite clear that strong voices in the community are
happy with that state of affairs. I’m not.
I also WANTED a phone with Sailfish OS on HW I could trust.
I’ve been following Jolla’s efforts for a while, but they tend to
target lower-end specs and -for me- unacceptable vendors.
I had -at some point- even considered getting one of the few
Sony devices that can be converted to Sailfish… ended up
looking elsewhere then. And, I’m probably going to do that
again… I’ll check back in a few years…
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Yes, I did. And, yes, it would be.
I think I’m in the 5% that said money is no object.
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Well, then maybe you, and people lucky enough to be in similar position, can design a boutique-style phone that meets all of your needs and install SFOS on that?
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Cheating on benchmarks is the only publicly disclosed issue I’m aware of.
That said, I find any form of dishonesty unappealing.
I suspect that’s a fair assumption and I respect your preferences.
They may, in fact, be well-grounded (unlike mine, which are mostly
emotional 
). I’m thinking I’d rather fate-share with the rest of
Europe and “the West” as we know it…
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Let me give you an example on how to get a warm welcome.
You come here and say:
“Hi everyone, blah blah, do we know if Jolla might support other platforms like snapdragon?”
And then option 1:
“I like the idea of this phone but i don’t like MTK for whatever reason.”
Option 2:
“I have XYZ concrete data that proves MTK SOC’s cannot be trusted for privacy reasons and here they are”.
Now please go back and read your message and tell me if you were in this community for 10-15 years how would you reply.
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Oh, I’d love to, if I had the time and the funds to invest.
As I don’t, I’m hoping someone else might and I’m more
than willing to chip in (i.e. vote with my wallet) by paying
a reasonable price for high-quality HW (without diamonds).
Also, Jolla is in the unique position of having developed
SFOS and could probably port to a new platform with lower
friction than any other player.
I also suspect that Jolla Phone (Sep 2026) is NOT their wet
dream, but what they figured they could actually build and sell
without going bankrupt.
Given what flaghsip phones cost these days, I truly think that they
SHOULD reconsider and keep BOTH a budget and a top-notch
alternative, at widely (or, even, wildly) different price points.
Granted, I’d probably not see myself paying 5k, but 1.5-2k for HW
that’s in the same class as the “big-tech” flagships would be fine.
Guys calm down. We’re all here with different opinions and experiences. Which is absolutely fine.
Frustration from the phone? Isn’t that most of the all phone users at least in some point in time. Regardless of OS and HW.
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That wouldn’t be my answer.
If your message had criticism or requests for Jolla I would have skipped it.
But your message was towards the community that helps with anything and everything for years, for free.
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Not in my world.
The whole point of my message was that the community didn’t even have a choice,
when it came to the platform / chipset. That seems to have been decided for them.
I see that as criticism towards Jolla; and, my (arguably, constructive) proposal was
to let the community vote on the chipset next time, even if that may sound unrealistic.
Of course, I’m forced to realize that at the volumes Jolla can afford, my “reasonable”
1.5-2k price may, in fact, be too low to cover their investment, let alone produce profits.
I’m not sure if the limiting factor is the size of the pool willing to pay such prices, or the
builders’ lack of confidence and/or capital. In either case, both Andy Rubin’s Essential
and Jim Jannard’s Hydrogen hit the bucket; so, something is clearly not working out…
I quote this but my answer is more towards all your posts. Firstly, welcome! Secondly it is always good to raise concerns.
When Jolla asked about the phone, they probably had veery little details what options they even have for patches this small. I think they asked most of the critical questions. It is hard to make poll where everyone can wish the best bells and whistles while it won’t automatically determine the price point. I think poll question regarding SoC provider would have been very hard and pretty high change that Jolla wouldn’t have been able to honor that, if they don’t have availability for everything.
As it was pointed out, only very few people were ready to pull out over 600€ to buy this device. I voted for 600-800€ as I wanted a little bit better hw specs. But I fully understood that wishing top tier hw with heavy price tag might back fire Jolla much more. Imagine someone pays 1500€ of a phone and then they figure out that they can’t use NFC on android side or some other “shortcoming”.
As SailfishOS is marketed as privacy phone I think they found quite good middle ground with the HW. With this phone I just hope that they are able to gain traction and grow in size. This way next phone could get even better specs and sfos have a brighter future. They don’t have any godfather billionaire in their disposal that I know about, which of course would make things much easier. But at the same time I hope they don’t pick one either who has too much saying.
It is good to have principles! If this phone doesn’t meet yours, it is okay. Of course I wished that your opinion wouldn’t be shot down from the sky so harshly. But glad that you looked it up anyway. I can’t use GOS as I don’t want google HW (or Chinese) and don’t want to use and support android ecosystem. That isn’t for me or many others here. That’s why you might sometimes find harsh reactions from here. All the best for you and I hope one day there is SailfishOS device that meet your requirements!
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You are not open-minded and never welcome people properly, which is a real shame…
This is a forum where people come to share their views through discussion and exchange, but you immediately go on the defensive… Social media syndrome has done a lot of damage these days; forums used to be more respectful in the past.
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The Jolla Phone launch brought quite a lot of people here in the past who did not bother reading the forum or respecting the community, but instead jumped straight to making sweeping criticisms of the platform and the people around it.
The OP was not the worst example of this, and I hope he does not see this as an attack. I just wanted to try to explain (not excuse) why some people here might currently be a bit thin-skinned after having experienced similar disruptive behavior so many times before.
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Your welcoming message joining this community was spreading misinformation
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Many thanks for the balanced response!
I’m with you on pretty much all the points you make.
And, I think Jolla should pay attention…
In either case, part of your reply inspired me to reserve a unit.
Although I don´t have the funds to finance what I’d consider
a better platform, I can afford to buy yet another device I don’t need,
just to express support for the idea of this phone, even if I dislike the
choice of SoC provider in the current implementation…
Feel free to shoot me a DM with a discount code!
Let’s hope Jolla survives and can make adjustments
in their next next Jolla phone. I did complain to Nothing
about their choice of chipset provider, too. Lo and behold,
the 4a uses Qualcomm…
BTW, any clues why they quit supporting Sony phones?
Or, why they don’t pull the GrapheneOS-trick and port SFOS
to the Pixel series?
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Wow, wouldn’t have guessed that, welcome onboard sailor!
Jolla actually asked what kind of referral system community wanted and we voted for no discount option 
We got referral system where we would get T-shirt, so that Jolla gets most of the funds to improve Sailfish. Jolla Phone update - referral program
This is what I hope from bottom of my heart. With this phone they exceeded all their goals and probably will sell something like 20-30k phones. For next phone I would love them to be in the 100 000s league, which would already give significantly better economies of scale. Or that one of the European HW companies like Fairphone licenses Sailfish to their phone.
Well to me it seems like Sony might have lost interest of the open device program. Or something has happened as Sony blobs are still so useless after almost 3 years after including the 10 V in the open device program. And personally I think it makes much more sense to then make own platform where you shouldn’t be on so much mercy of the others (Sony in this case). +Jolla can get much more money out of it. Historically consumer business has been only very small portion of Jolla’s business but luckily Jolla phone will shift that a little bit. Of course Jolla could try to find workarounds with the current blobs but that wouldn’t benefit SFOS generally and as they already have very limited resources I think they are better used with actual SFOS development, like camera api 2.
Correct me if I am wrong, but GOS doesn’t do actual business (at least with Pixels)? They live of donations, right? As Sailfish isn’t android fork, I don’t know if Sailfish could even be just build on top of AOSP like android forks can? My understanding is that Sailfish mainly uses the drivers which are all developed for android, but this is territory where I have very limited knowledge. And I doubt that license of AOSP allows even build anything commercial on top of it? Sony open device program allows commercial use which I believe is why they have historically used legacy Sony devices. But of course then they are on mercy of Sony to make the drivers etc to work, which we have seen isn’t the best strategy. Sony has done quite badly with 10 IV and 10 V cases and a lot of people are blaming Jolla for that.
Hopefully I was able to answers at least some questions
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Thanks! As I said, I’ve been following this for a while.
I had even suggested in the H4V forum to license Sailfish
for the Hydrogen, but that their ODM partner (CloudMinds)
were fully Google-encumbered.
I had also attempted putting Sailfish on the Hydrogen,
but I failed miserably (due to having no direct access
to BSP blobs, nor enough know-how to figure out how
I’d go about extracting them from packaged firmware).
I really WANTED to like this phone, which is also why
I got so frustrated that I felt the need to vent that here.
BUT, in the end, all is well. I’ll get mine after yours
(as I assume pretty much everyone who’s active here
got their tabs on a unit in one of the pre-order batches).
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Most people I know who use Sailfish, or who would be potential Sailfish users, would do almost anything to avoid using Google hardware or giving any money to Google at all. So Pixels would be a hard sell.
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interessting, you want security but pay for a phone that runs Android, Linux and Windows on the same device? If you have Windows on a device, does not matther which one then you are NOT save at all.