The state of the things is that Jolla does not target upper range.
The poll at the top of this page for the Jolla Phone 2 (J2) shows 57% of the of participants voted for the lowest price range.
The Xperia 10 is the lowest line that Sony sells (outside of Japan, in the past 5 years), and you could call the 10iii outdated.
The Jolla Community Phone 2 (C2) is quite basic hardware apparently.
The small volumes (initially designed for 2000 pre-orders) means prices are much higher than the mainstream brands can get. An mid-upper Jolla phone would already cost much more for the hardware, plus Jolla would have to multiplicate their margin to compensate for the much reduced sales. Only 5% voted for over 1000 €…
I wanted a macro camera, but it’s not what Jolla will make, so I am already considering photo accessories for the phone.
My most important criteria are: linux-based and working as well as possible. So I took a Sony with SFOS. I don’t need a phone right now, I love my Xperia 10iii (I will miss it!), I purchased the J2 essentially to support the project. As a linux phone is my most important criterion, I have to accept the compromise on the SoC, the camera sensor, screen size, etc.
I hope Jolla is very successful, such that they are able to offer a wide range of phones. It’s already not bad they launched the C2 in May 2024 and the J2 in December 2025.
If your important criteria are first the camera sensor, and in second comes linux, then you can look through the existing hardware phones that support SFOS, in particular from https://verdanditeam.com/
That’s true, but Xiaomi had immediate access to the entire Chinese market of 1.4 billion people, and was founded by people with access to endless resources: directors of Google China, Kingsoft and Motorola. That isn’t to say that Jolla was founded by nobodies, but the two are hardly comparable. Although it would have been interesting if Jolla had also branched out into scooters, fish tanks and home automation.
yeah, I get that. From what I can see it looks like @Parker98 typed in something in their native language, which could’ve been a compact language like Chinese, that when translated can balloon into a lengthy prose. In addition, newer genAI assisted translations tend to pad the output with superfluous words to make things sound more polished, but end up sounding like a marketing pitch. Traditional translation tools also use AI (deep learning and neural networks) but prioritize on keeping the meaning of the translation close to the original instead of making it sound “better”.
It might be good for those using translation apps to mention that, like I’ve seen with some German posts. Most of us on the forum just want to get our point across, sometimes we repeat things in different ways to make the point, other times we use tools to assist us - an additional link, an image, a translation.
Of course I could be totally off base here, as I’m making an assumption on Parker’s comment. It’s just something I’ve noticed when doing a lot of English ↔ Finnish translations, and the occasional English ↔ Chinese ones.
Was HBM (high brightness mode) discussed already?
In the region where I live HBM is really essential:
On the Xperia 10 V with current 5.0.0.72 beta there is no HBM (at least to my awareness) and this renders the device useless outdoors, meaningful use only indoors possible. The same device with stock Andoid (that has HBM) is a pleasure to use.
Also on my Volla Quintus HBM makes a striking difference: with HBM enabled, SFOS shines and the device is useable outdoors.
Therefore: are any details about screen brightness of J2 known?
Good idea, but today cannot be available, and I think they want to know the topics a couple of days in advance.
I was actually thinking about bringing this to the agenda of next meeting in case this was really not discussed or announced somewhere before
Thank you for your reply. As you said, my native language is Chinese, not English. Sometimes I need to use translation tools to express myself. My point is simple: I hope Jolla phones become more popular, and I also hope the mobile phone market becomes more diversified so that consumers have more choices. Thank you again for your kind intentions.
I’ve just arrived from the Jolla Phone (Sep 2026) pre-order page wanting to check
what the “community” got to choose. Apparently, too little. The chipset seems to
have been given and non-negotiable from the start. What a pity…
I was eager to pre-order, until I got to the specs. Mediatek? In a supposedly
privacy-focused device? This sounds like a case of penny-pinching bean-counters.
May I suggest to take a community vote on the choice of platform next time?
You appear to look for a hardened phone rather than merely a privacy oriented one. Those two things are not the same. How exactly is Mediatek a problem for the latter? The Jolla Phone is not for dissidents fearing for their security, it is for people who don’t want Google and Co to farm their data.
For a hardened security above all else phone, may I recommend a Google Pixel with Graphene to you?
Even with graphene, what i use also, I don’t have a very strong trust in Gugel. They can put as many backdoors in their chip as they will. Until those backdors are not active nobody wil recognize that.
I sure do. I have quite a few short-run devices,
including a few Hydrogen One:s (from waitlist).
Granted, it helps to have a billionaire backing
a project. Jolla is not quite the same class…
I’m guessing you may not have read the community guidelines.
Strongly recommended!
I don’t see why I should be glad. I derive no pleasure from seeing
companies fail to meet (part of) their community’s expectations.
The device they ended up designing doesn’t meet my needs and wants.
BTW, I’ve just paid a 199USD reservation for a NexPhone…
But did anyone ask for your opinion?
You didn’t come here to read as we can see and you didn’t come here to ask or learn anything.
You came here to tell us about this community that you have no clue about and tell us that you use Android custom roms on Google hardware.
Good for you and I hope you enjoy it so much that you don’t have to jump into other communities in the future.
Enjoy the definitely secure and amazingly performing Tensor until then.
Cheers!
