I think it could be thicker if necessary (room for a bigger battery too) and the buttons could sit between the halves just like in the original Jolla phone. A side mounted fingerprint reader would be a new addition though.
I loved the original design where sides of the bottom half were flat and the top and bottom ends were rounded whereas the top half was vice versa. That would be nice to have again.
I have come to value distinctive, functional design and a choice of bold colours in these days of boring glass slabs. Jolla could bring something refreshing to the market.
Didn’t vote for the user replaceable battery since it will soon be mandatory anyways.
Also, please let go of the idea that biometric access is secure. It never has been and probably never will be.
“Soon” in this context means February 2027, and Jolla is aiming to release the device in the Q1/2026, if everything goes as planned. So people might want to double-check their vote, if this is important to them.
The biggest issue for me with SailfishOS devices has been the hardware really. If I could have a SailfishOS device that would be comparable to flagships from Apple and Android manufacturers, I would buy it. If there would also be a support for wearables and BT for Android apps, I would come personally to your office to buy one of your pre-production units because I couldn’t wait for the official release
How about NFC support for Android apps? I see there’s some work going on to improve Bluetooth support, but in this case should be even simpler because NFC should be configurable to work “only” in AAS, as the use case for native apps is really really rare.
I agree, but only right now. I have 8gb on my current phone and it’s easily enough, but I’m pretty sure it won’t be soon. So IMO 12gb or 16gb is the way to go. For storage I’d say 256gb will be fine for a long time (especially if there’s an SD slot).
For me honestly, I’d say the most important thing is the form factor → make it smaller than any of the mainstream brands and I’m back on board. The Jolla 1 form factor is perfect, and I would absolutely still use it if it could run any apps
Also in 2025 I require NFC payments and a fingerprint sensor, along with native support for those (because having to rely on Android apps and services sucks and drains battery/storage/RAM). Oh and please please please don’t integrate the fingerprint sensor into the display - a separate one is much more reliable. I don’t care if it’s on the back or inside the power button or whatever, but inside the display is just not as good. But if the choice is between inside the display or none at all, then inside the display of course.
Another thing that’s very important is the camera - it’s gotta be top tier, but even more important is the camera software, as the iPhone’s demonstrate. Also I would be very happy if the phone had a dedicated camera shutter button like some of the last Nokia Symbian phones did, with the typical camera behaviour where you press it lightly and it focuses and then press it all the way down to snap. Also the button could be freely mappable (I don’t know what else you would do with it though…).
Of course the most recent type of Gorilla Glass or whatever would also be great. I don’t remember what my current Samsung has, but it seems pretty much indestructible. I’ve dropped it onto concrete stairs display first and it hasn’t broken, whereas my kids cheap phone displays crack when you look at them the wrong way. So it’s definitely worth the extra investment.
And then, this is a software thing, but I really wish there were some way to reduce the need to run Android apps and services. It doesn’t solve it completely, but partially it could be solved by developing the best PWA support ever into the browser. That would allow running the web versions of apps like Facebook/Messenger/etc. in separate containers that feel almost like native apps, and that seems like a much better option to me than constantly running all the Android stuff. Of course native versions of all apps would be the ideal thing, but that’s just not feasible in any way.
the camera is something that is deeply lacking on Jolla phones right now, and it’s mainly a software problem.
if we’re taking a photo it is almost always the wife these days using her £300 Android phone (Moto 50 Neo).
If i take a picture on my 10iii it will be blurry low contrast unless the lighting is perfect… and usually look rubbish because it took so long to take the picture the moment was missed.
the Xperia 10 series aren’t bad cameras, and on Android the software is perfectly capable of using that hardware.
Yeah, it definitely is a software issue. I mean, iPhones for example don’t really have that fancy cameras, but their software is just pure magic. Even my iPhone SE gen2 takes really good pictures even though it basically has a potato for a camera (and only one camera, no depth sensor or similar even).
Yes, for some reason, the camera quality on SFOS for Sony’s has gone worser over the years.
I dont know if it’s related to the blobs; but for instance, pictures taken with any sony phone (personally Ive seen Xperia X, 10 Ii, and now 10 V but that solved the problem by not having a camera ) are way darker than the android countrparts.
You make good points and your reply is a testament to how successful Big Tech has been to locking up the space for others.
Also @WT.Sane, did you really have to quote that whole post for a useless reply?
I’m totally the opposite
I don’t mind if it is in the display as long as it isn’t combined with the power button. That’s the most annoying thing ever. Been using a Xperia 10 III for years now (and an Android Pixel which has the same) and I’ve never gotten used to it.
The reason I don’t want it inside the display is that at least on my current phone (Samsung Galaxy S21) it’s much more unreliable than the separate sensors on my previous two Huawei phones. And it’s also annoying because the usage of it is getting more frequent, it’s embarrassing trying to pay at a shop when you can’t get the fingerprint to register. It seems to have gotten a bit better with the recent Android 15 update though.
I don’t have much experience with it inside the power button though, but my wife’s and daughter’s phones have it there and they say it works pretty well.
I think we need to be realistic, I would be much happier with a collaboration between Fairphone and Jolla, rather than this. I suspect the supplier of the next Jolla phone will be Reeder with advanced specs compared to C2.
After using a Jolla 1, XA2, 10 Plus and 10, the C2 seems too heavy. Even Lumia 950 XL and BlackBerry Passport seem light in comparison.
And the lack of LED is very annoying (Symbian’s Sleeping Screen would be even better, some Ashas and Lumias even had similar on LCD screens).
3,5 mm headphone is a must for me, not only because cheap wired headphones like Koss The Plug and Porta Pro are superior in durability and audio quality to cheap USB-C headphones, but because using the USB-C for charging and listening to USB-C headphones simultaneously is impossible, for example on trains and when using a power bank. And my X10 Plus had to be abandoned because the USB-C port got so loose, and I know of another case, despite it was only used for charging. Not to mention of not having to worry about charging headphones.
A good camera, N9 quality, would be very nice. Optimally with a two stage camera button (that optimally would turn on the camera), so the phone could be used safely on one hand for taking photos. One good rear camera would be enough.
Great, but unlikely looking at current phones, would be a square screen like on the Xperias without rounded corners and without a notch or a hole.
Basically Lumia 950 XL with Sailfish would be perfect. Resolution, brightness, RAM, storage, processor, battery are all good enough imho already on the C2, only the camera isn’t.
