No. You are just saying the same again and again and again?…
Example:
Have videos or presentations stored on the phone.
Enter a room with 5 other people.
In the room there is a TV or a standard computer monitor with wireless connection.
Want to show the video or presentation to them.
Have only SailfishOS phone.
So I’ve got bad luck, while others with their A. phones or Win Laptops have no problems to wireless connect to the display.
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We can create a lot of scenarios in this case, but most people will not show up in a meeting room to present with their phone while everyone else will have their laptop.
Even if you could, just thinking about it seems very disturbing and unprofessional to me.
Again, there might be a few instances where this would become handy, but for most people and most cases it won’t be.
If Jolla one day thinks it’s time for this, I will welcome it. But so far it seems that we need to get the phone part right, then the smartphone part, and then the rest.
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I tried the google-dex version a little. The only scenario I find this comes in handy is, when I am in the office. Connect the phone to the docking station, have keyboard and mouse, and big screen, write my “important" mail an disconnect again.
But to be fair… the Bluetooth keyboard directly connected to the phone did the job as well.
Only the capabability to have two windows beside each other was really nice.
I do not think that this is a real game changer. Nice to have, but if not available I won’t miss it.
Cheers
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Essential PH-1, lineages daily driver, on the big screen at home with mouse and keyboard, I feel you.
Really wish the devs left behind a way to mod the hardware on this bad boy, it’s the ultimate Android phone.
You have no idea what you’re talking about as you’ve never tried DeX. I’ve been working on DeX for the last 5 years and I have had all in one device in my pocket - provided you have a workspace with screen, keyboard/mouse and hub, at work and at home. When on the move - lapdock. Whatever, this is just one use case from several.
Non-smart screens/TVs and projectors are still common. Another use case is the support of high-speed USB-C data transfers generally.
Open source/free software. It was you who referred to FOSS founders and advocates disrespectfully. Without Stallman there’d been no GNU/Linux, possibly no Android and no Jolla. Not whining, asking kindly for hardware support that will allow the FOSS community to help/build the needed software support later.
Ubuntu phones. I had the tablet. It lacked apps, smth Jolla bridges with Android support. Did not fail because of “exotic” hardware support.
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OK, to be honest… I want to watch music videos stored on the phone on the TV screen.
Like its been pointed out multiple times; When you have a keyboard, mouse and monitor, you’re also going to have a computer running an OS made for that kind of use. A scenario it isn’t not true is more akin to the start of a “What do you call a…“-type joke than a common real life situation.
As for non-smart TVs; I’ve not seen one in a meeting room in a long time and they’ve also been exceedingly hard to even find in stores for years. Only ones you’ll find nowdays are for digital signage. Meeting rooms also never used computer monitors, just projectors but even they went away after big screen TVs got cheap about 10 years ago. Meaning that you’re really just talking about legacy use cases and may just as well be demanding analog outputs. There are still devices with only analog inputs being used, but those too are of ever fading relevance to new devices.
Stallman’s issues with personal hygiene don’t detract from his achievements in advancing open source, but his inflexibility, his anti-social personality traits and those personal hygiene issues are genuine points of criticism. The fact that he got the ball rolling on Open Source doesn’t shield him from any and all criticism. Open Source has never been a hugbox where you can’t think critically about your work and eachother. Its a foundational part of open source so your getting huffy about comparisons to Stallman’s issues is not in line with open source.
No. All you’re really doing is being one of a few dozen very loud, very self-centered people without the introspection to be able to think “Huh? So how many people actually use this thing I use and is it actually worth anything for any significant number of other people?“. Because if you really were a proper FOSS supporter you’d be ready to actually contribute something, not just demand, demand, demand like some kind of Apple fanboy.
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Never been to an open office?
Literally banks of monitors/keyboards/mice and nothing else. That’s actually what I was thinking about when I proposed this in the original thread, which I now obviously deeply regret.
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Literally banks of monitors/keyboards/mice and nothing else
… used by people who’ve all been issued company laptops and may also be explicitly prohibited from copying the files they need for work onto personal devices.
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Chill please 
we are just exchange our opinions. So far we all understand, You don’t need USB-C video out. It is your point. Other one have other point. If other people says, they would appreciate that, then it is so. Jast let others have own opinions
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could we have that valuable conversation somewhere else, rather than derail discussion of the progress Jolla [have] made?
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Yeah, here is a visual back-to-topic. 
Data collected by a Raspberry and converted to sqlite for the nice SFOS Value Logger app:
First.days are an approximation with only one value.
As a crazy collector, I’d love to have the data from the first batches.
Does someone have collected that, by chance?
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Seems like they need to AGAIN spend time and plan next patch… 
Cool, I love graphs
We can at least estimate the average sales rate of the pre-orders. Phoronix reported on 5.12.25, 383 pre-orders. On the 28.2.26 it was roughly 9800. That is roughly 111 units per day.
This September batch has sold on average 88 times per day, which is still 79% of the pre-order rate, even at the increased price. It is possible that the media coverage of the WMC has helped and it will be interesting to see if that can be sustained.
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No problem @Jolla. 
Here are mine (also refer to the linked posting):
- A display without any notches, but with a built-in fingerprint reader instead: Would this still be a possibility - cost-wise and construction-wise?
- A second USB-C port will probably be impossible due to space constraints and such, but Audio Adapter Accessory Mode on the remaining port - maybe?
- Simultaneously sending 1 audio stream to at least 2 different Bluetooth sinks, complete with latency adjustment and optional Left/Right channel separation: I guess this is both hardware- and software-dependent, but it would be a banger if you could implement it.
Although I’d guess it is too late for changes (but who knows…) this is a very interesting feature.
This would allow to use any BT speaker, even non TWS*, to, finally again, easily have Stereo music.
*True Wireless Stereo
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Exactly! 
Or for using 2 different pairs of TWS Bluetooth speakers (some models from Sony have this capability) if your party or dance space is big and 1 pair alone doesn’t suffice.
10 left. Whatever it will be, this batch of 1000 will be sold out by tomorrow.
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