Almost every device that is in use today supports RCS by default in native messaging app.
I agree with the initial statement as well because for majority default messaging means rcs, calls mean volte/voWifi, etc.
I can give you a personal example. I could not use my Xperia as an actual phone because with volte I couldn’t receive sms. I had to endure 1990 voice quality or accept that I can’t receive sms.
That is fixed now in early access and it’s huge.
That aside, I still can’t use my phone in the office because there’s almost no reception but of course there’s wifi everywhere. Every iPhone works, every android works, every smartwatch works (and I’m talking devices up to 10-12 years old), but my sfos devices don’t have vowifi so they don’t work.
With rcs I would have been able to send messages as well since it would use my wifi connection.
Yeah at least one’s consciously choosing to be spied on by F (AANG), implementing RCS is just giving up implementing the G, who cares about anecdotal take over of france, one viral news article it’s trump behind it and they will drop it
Cool, when I was forced to use android rcs was one of the things to disable first as at least ISPs responds to court orders from this country while googol is practically immune and does whatever they want, if/when it becomes non-google only we can have the same discussion again, currently it’s cancer and the fact it can be useful when you’re in a bunker with wifi, damn, whatsapp also works there so who cares, xmpp also works in a wifi bunker
Then I guess if we get it at some point you can just disable it and everyone else who needs it can enable it.
But its good to have options, especially if we are talking about features that will enable you to communicate when there’s no other way (it’s a phone we are talking about).
I am also fine with ISPs knowing a meeting that I need to have with a team or lunch with an investor. I don’t need vowifi/rcs at work to sell drugs or send “edgy” political memes
Vowifi is not google tied so yes please, google proprietary crap no thanks, just get an android phone if you need google’s sms-to-wifi-to-sms bridge or use a normal communicator
Rest assured that every single year there’s a new pro max on my desk and I also have a lot of other devices.
The point is to be able to have all the basic functionality on my sfos phone one day so that I won’t need to carry 2 phones.
Anyway, I believe with J2’s reach we will have many nice things down the road. I’m happy I can finally use volte so 1 less thing to worry about!
Hopefully (as some ISPs whitelist handsets for volte the fact it works on xperia is no guarantee it will work on J2 even if technically it could, vowifi is even worse)
RCS is not a proprietary Google protocol, it’s a standard protocol by the GSM Association, much like SMS…
If you’re just concerned about your RCS messages going through Google’s servers… so do SMS messages, if the folks you talk with have android with Google Messages’ sync feature enabled.
…and most RCS implementations allow you to disable RCS and go back to SMS, anyway, IIRC.
Either way I personally don’t care, I just want to message my friends & family like a normal person.
they briefly proposed it, and quickly backtracked, thankfully. the subscription is still there, but it’s now completely voluntary, like a patreon-type deal.
it’s honestly surprising just how much of a PR stain that left, yeesh
Please read fill articles, not just titles. DeX is live and kicking, just no not a branch but based on Android Desktop. What was really killed was the Windows app that connects to DeX.
“Samsung killed its “classic” DeX in One UI 8, replacing it with a new version built on top of Google’s native Desktop Mode in Android.This move aligns DeX with Google’s broader effort to improve Android’s desktop capabilities, which should benefit DeX in the long run.”
Your remarks about Stallman are regretful, it seems you do not understand the spirit and the philosophy of the Free software, but then, few can.
Now about video out being redundant. There are still many millions of display devices that have just HDMI and nothing else - TVs, projectors, screens. Good luck streaming video to them without a cable. With low latency.
start a new thread extolling the glorious future that awaits any tech upstart brave enough to seize it by bringing about the era of convergence devices.
For the most part, every “sms” sent from a device is either RCS or iMessage. Every call is routed through VoLTE or 5GNR, every time someone is at home or has low reception his call is going through VoWifi.
These are not optional extra apps, this is how the world currently functions in most cases.
Unless of course specifically in Finland every Android/iOS user is disabling these 3 features on their device
@PeegeeTips, please read carefully my previous posts, I am only kindly asking @Jolla to reconsider the video out hardware support as this feature has multiple and very common use-cases, just to leave the door open for future use for any of them. Should this be not a huge effort or cost. This is all.
The place is the right one, here it was announced that for now they don’t count with it.
So in other words even you have to now admit Samsung didn’t sell enough devices with it to justify continuing to develop or even maintain it. As soon as an alternative turned up, they just dumped their codebase and began to call the new thing “dex“ while having no common codebase.
The fact that there are millions of TVs out there with only HDMI in doesn’t mean that anyone wants to stream video to them. Monitors will come with a computer that’s running an OS that’s actually meant for desktop use. Wireless video streaming has also been a standard feature for smart TVs for almost a decade by now so you’re exclusively talking about legacy TVs here. Thus, you may just as well be arguing that Jolla include RF or SCART output.
Also, this has nothing to do with open source. In open source you don’t just whine at manufacturers to go make something you want like they’re Apple or Microsoft. Being open source you just got and start building that yourself. Something none of the more recent people whining that this needs to be more widely available are either willing or able to do.
Over a decade ago they did actually go make what they wanted with the Ubuntu phones. So how did that end? Well it turns out that it really was just a small number of very loud basement dwellers who didn’t even buy the devices that were specifically made for them. Hence I’d prefer Jolla simply ignore them so that Jolla doesn’t go the way of the dodo and continues to exist. At the very least push this to the very bottom bottom of the idea pile to be re-visited maybe 5 years from now and that’s assuming that they’ve actually established themselves with a profitable business by then.
The reasons these phone+desktop things don’t move forward are very simple in most cases.
Either you already have a laptop/desktop to do what you need or you don’t because you don’t need one.
A scenario where you somehow enter a room with monitors, peripherals, cables and everything else except an actual computer are very rare for most people.
There’s also a very slim chance that you carry with you all of these and not something like a tablet/laptop.
It’s that simple.
No one needs to carry his office with him in a truck or something instead of carrying a small laptop.
Now, Jolla already has something niche to care about and that is the TOH. As an example, what are they going to do in the next device. Keep compatibility somehow? Or risk losing traction by sticking to the same design for even more years?
I think they already have a lot to think about other than a feature that is already proven to not be popular in the smartphone market.
