Video out is not an exotic feature. Most mid-range phones support it. The desktop mode is now part of Android’s core features (Google adopted it from Samsung DeX). Being able to play video on a (big) external screen is a pretty basic and popular feature. Speaking of Samsung DeX. A survey on Reddit claims half of their flagship owners are using the desktop mode often. This is millions of users, mostly the tech-savvy ones, I suppose.
J2 is not a mass market phone, the phone’s producers/designers stated it is a fringe one. Aimed at freedom/privacy fans and Linux geeks. Now, speaking as a Linux geek - how can I utilise the pure Linux in my phone if I have no option to plug it to a big screen, add mouse and keyboard and hack around the OS and its apps? Via SSH only? Possible, but not (all) what a geek wants.
All I kindly ask Jolla is to add the hardware support now and not close this door, software can be added later. Don’t want to wait for J3 phone, if it ever comes.
So what now, we are no longer paid customers and are just left with Jolla lord’s mercy for bit by bit handout? I have never learnt one single great product that comes from conditonless gratefullness.
Disclaimer, I preordered J2 on dispatch 1, but I am also a Xperia 10V holder who waited from 2024
Just registered and placed an order, I have been using OnePlus phones for about 10 years and really want an alternative to Android.
Couple of questions
As a non-technical user will this phone require and ability to code or need any knowledge of Linux?because I have not had much luck in the past with Linux OS.
The carcass/body of the phone, will it be plastic or metal?
“Long-term OS support, guaranteed for minimum 5 years. Incremental updates, and no forced obsolescence.”
I assume this means there will be an optional subscription after 5 years?
If you had trouble with Linux distros you should try others. There are many very user friendly. I use Mageia which is and I’m very satisfied.
Minimum 5 years means that Jolla will officially support JP2 for at least that. I very much doubt that they will require subscribtion after that. OTOH 5 years is long and many things can happen.
Hey and welcome! Jolla planned to have subscription model, but they ditched it before ever implementing it Now they only have voluntary subscription model so no mandatory one.
Regarding necessary tech knowledge, I don’t have any and I have been able to solve problems thanks to this forum. There has been many helpful people directing me and many problems have been answered already
A poll on some specific fan/poweruser subreddit is hardly proof of anything. The fact that dex got shut down with little fanfare and Google has only TALKED about including something similar, but hasn’t actually released it to the public, doesn’t say what you think it does. All that proves is what I’ve been saying all along; Its a pretty marginal feature that a lot of very loud and entitled people talk about, but barely anybody is willing to actually pay money for it.
The only mainstream video out from smartphones is wireless video streaming to show photos and videos off a phone and that’s absolutely something Jolla can do fully in software. That’s how its done on Android and iOS. What Jolla haven’t done is wired video out via the type C connector and that’s a far less common feature.
So rather than putting huge amounts of resources into a feature that’s probably only going to be used by dozens of people, put the effort instead into just polishing everything else. Making a device that’s as competitive as can be with iOS and Android devices from companies with far more money to spend rather than placating a couple dozen basement dwellers with unkept hair and BO worse than Richard Stallman.
Any source on that? (edit: afaik ot’s googol only protocol that uses googol only servers, if it’s actually independent and catching up let us know instead of spreading fud)
Because users like group chats, status, read check, gratis international messages, and use less and less classic SMS?
You can not have Whatsapp available, you can not have RCS, but it’s more and more harder to have neither of them for today communication standard habits.
Ok so no source and googol is better than whatsapp’s facebook for some reason, cool
Edit: around me sms more and more imply iMessage and women get the ick from green bubbles, so chasing rcs is kinda pointless unless you want to be an incel, iMessage is the proprietary protocol to go for
Noone cares about apple’s or googol’s proprietary protocol that only goes through their servers, no, sms does not mean rcs more and more, just as it doesn’t mean iMessage more and more, get a grip
Now they only have voluntary subscription model so no mandatory one.