The provided https://archive.ph/K9AhG link doesn’t work for me either, just an endless captcha.
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You can read the “paywalled” article by disabling javascript here:
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Disabling javascript works. Another option is to add this custom filter to “My Filters” in uBlock Origin (won’t work in uBlock Origin Lite).
wired.com##^script#journey
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When will the fate of this be confirmed? It’s a critical feature 
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Seven.of.nine
The confusion and the different expectations are due to the hybrid structure of Jolla being a company and a community with volunteering devs and of ‘users’. Consumers always take a risk and therefore consumers rights are secured by law. Therefore Jolla as a company has a duty towards consumers. Volunteers are not secured by law. That can be frustrating. Volunteers helped improving the OS. But they also find joy in tweaking and tinkering. On the other hand they are free to join and free to leave. Many did that after the tablet disaster. The situation is different for a company that employs people, has investors and consequently has responsibilities.
Today I shared on social media again a post about Jolla2. Knowing that it will be ‘a hell of a job’ to bring it on the market as a real alternative. Not only because the mass is enslaved to G & A, also because of some restraint from within, from dogmatic libertarians who want everything for free. It was 2013 when I first read about Jolla1 in an interview with Aral Balkan in a mainstream Dutch newspaper. That time Jolla1 was presented by charismatic Marc Dillon as a potential alternative. Jolla had an enthousiastic team of employees then. That team shrunk drastically after…..you know. I hope that the J2 will reach a larger public, including ‘mum and dad’. We need decent, independent tech.
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Please keep consistency in topic and please be polite people.
I will only say one thing. Jolla never promised USB C video out feature (as far as i know) and specifications are mostly finalized now. August 2025 was voting phase for specifications. Why people who want video out saying now did not participate in voting and not talk about it?
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The bid for video out was literally the second reply in the feature poll and it had 44 hearts…
Edit: I absolutely accept that it can’t be part of the product and am looking forward to get the device
Yes but video out is abit exotic feature. It needs hardware and software (as far as i know Sailfish cant output video that way?) support. Costs money and energy. So Jolla might have thinked video out not needed that much and not needed by alot of people. It also would cost extra for them and thats why theyre debating the video out support now.
I think those that really want video out needed to say it loud and clear yes we want it yes we need it! And prove it can be made easy and cheap (if possible) and its a very useful feature and needed feature. We people look differently on different things and some times we need abit of real discussion and understand each other to see other ideas and thoughts.
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Most people just want phones that work. Dont care about open source. Thats exactly what apple does really good. Ease of use, reliable and seamless user experience across devices, availability etc.
SFOS doesn’t offer that. As i usually say its no even at the level of a normal desktop linux distro. If we reach that we can talk about “joe average“ readyness.
That’s because most people are sheep. Look at the current state of affairs in the USA. As long as people are getting theirs, they don’t care that their rights are being trampled and their freedom is evaporating.
I am very grateful to have Jolla & SFOS as an alternative to the mainstream. I agree, it takes a bit more effort to use and it isn’t perfect, but I am OK with that. Large scale adoption seems unlikely in the short term, but as our world devolves further into chaos, perhaps more people will seek out a less intrusive phone option.
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Sheep or not they want to do stuff and move on with their lives. Functionality tops everything.
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To each their own
The point that i am trying to make is that doing stuff out of ideology will always appeal to a limited amount if people.
Having an ideology and having the goal to make it -the priduct- functional/easy to use will get you much further. They will most likely see your ideology as a bonus or advantage.
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I think you’ve got a point here but I would add, that appealing to “ideology” is the only option for an OS like Sailfish, at least on the consumer market. The app duopoly (in the west at least) of iOS and Android is just too strong. Not even a Microsoft with those Windows Phones could challenge that successfully on the mass market front and they poured billions into it.
In my humble opinion as complete noob, it is important to keep Sailfish alive, if need be, just for that enthusiast market. If the need should arise, like it did for Huawei in China, and the political will therefore develop, things could go pretty fast but only if there is a foundation to build upon. If there isn’t things will be much more painful.
PS: All of that doesn’t mean that one should not aim for functionality and ease of use of course.
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I believe in “build it and they will come”. Little by little.
The thing that pains me most is what SFOS could have been. I sometimes feel like it has bit rotted so much that you need to create the distro again from scratch.
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Millions of flies can’t fail. They just know what tastes good.
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Feel free. (20 Characters)
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It is more down to what online services with apps you use.
I see it is going nowhere.
Good luck!
I think you did not understood anything about what jolla stands for in this times.
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I leave to history to judge based on facts, not on assumptions and understanding!