Jolla Phone : First Experiences, Pros and Cons

I did not perform a real test, I did not have the possibility to dial a number or synchronize contacts in the Mazda system at all (these functions were unavailable).

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I have issues also. I managed to make a call but suddenly it just went silent on my end. Several attempts to start the call again but didn’t work.

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I noticed that switching the audio app while connected to my car has problems. I usually listen music via Qobuz (Android) or the native media player. If I change the app and sart a track with the native app the music from Qobuz fades out, but the one from media player stays silent.

I also picked up my J2 in Helsinki, and I didn’t want to rain on the parade, but I also love the spirit of the original sounds. Timeless and upbeat. I still use them. The new tunes give me a bit of a ‘beer commercial vibe’ if that’s a thing.

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Phone dimensions have been discussed to death when Jolla asked for what sailors wanted before the design phase.

Sadly, almost all current smartphones are big or very big, so it’s hard to find an available screen smaller than the one in the Jolla Phone 2026.

Making a smaller phone would require a special command, and Jolla doesn’t have the volume to absorb the extra costs.

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You can easily recognize the layers by their outer rims, which generally leave a tiny space between the real glass and the protector. The most upper layer is a thin and flabby one with a flap. The second one directly on the glass is sturdier with no flap.

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Really? I still have the one with the strip on my screen, and I can’t see anything that may look as another already attached screen protector. Ad why should Jolla sell screen protectors when the phone already comes with one?

The second one is also meant to be removed. They said it in somewhere when people asked

This also could have been communicated a lot clearer. Or labeled on the phone itself. I removed the first cover but had no idea there was another one and installed the protective glass on top of it. If there really is one.

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It’s just the protective film from the factory that protects against the most superficial scratches during shipping, like the plastic film you often have to peel off on shiny plastic or metal electronics, but worthless as an actual screen protector.

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Judging from the fact that my second film is very much observable and hard to miss (similarly to e.g. the one visible in this photo Jolla Phone 2026 - batch 1 - Dust building up between front camera and screen glass - #130 by Rusted), I very much suspect that only some (early?) devices have this second, slightly more permanent plastic film, while others (later assembled?) don’t. No peeling strip on the second one.

I can now confirm that the flashlight stops working when battery level goes down to 15% even without the user controllable battery saving mode on and even while charging the phone. The battery saving mode that can be toggled by the user doesn’t affect the flashlight.

The behaviour with low battery is such that the flashlight toggle properly turns on and stays on but the light doesn’t turn on. I even tested turning it on and then charging, but the light doesn’t turn on when battery reaches 15%. After that flashlight toggle needs to be turned off and on again to have the light actually turn on. When the battery level goes down to 15% with the flashlight on, the light just turns off all of a sudden but the flashlight toggle stays on.

The behaviour with low battery is different to the behaviour when trying to turn on the flashlight with the stock camera app open. When the camera app is open, the flashlight button just briefly flashes showing the text “on” and then goes back to off without the light turning on.

Flashlight does indeed work on my phone if battery level is above 15%. Another thing I found during testing is that the phone just immediately turns off once it goes down to 2% battery. I faintly remember that this is how it worked also with the first Jolla phone. I need to get used to it again after using phones that last for quite a while still at 1% before turning off. Luckily the forum software saved my draft message that I had open on the phone when it turned off.

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Thanks for the explanation. I love the fact that there was an open and transparent vote for the specs and I fully respect the results of that vote. I went back now and read some of those discussions to educate myself further as I sadly was late to the party this time.

Still hoping that at some point the resources are there to provide an alternative also when it comes to phone and screen size.

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Yes, that one on the photo is the sturdier one.

What I still don’t understand are the thoughts behind applying a screen protector on top of an existing one, however god or bad that one may be.
Any additional layer always adds the risk of additional bubbles and dust, makes the touch experience worse and just does not make any sense.

It somehow reminds me of people painting over instead of cleaning the surface first, then paint to get a reliable coating. Just adding new layers increases the risk of paint peeling off and other unwanted consequences.

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To be brutally honest; I love the size of the J2. F*** small phones. Sorry :smiley:

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Sure. Nevertheless these obviously different phones (some witj and some without) are a bit strange. I just fear right now to do something wron as I bought the screen protector, but never used one before in now 18 years of smartphone useage…

Clarifying here, that Jolla said you are meant to remove it, if you are applying the screen protector. If you are not going to use a screen protector and have this second factory installed plastic protective layer (based on posts here, seems like not everyone has it), there is no need to remove it.

The context of “when applying screen protector” might go over some peoples head if they don’t realize your message was a reply to user above you.

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I have had the device for a couple of days. Certainly not enough time to get a strong feel for how it’ll be moving forward, but enough to form an opinion.

I want to like this phone, I really do. I support the mission of a more independent Europe, and I think the development of a new linux-based mobile operating system is exciting.

However. I have found the experience to be… full of friction.

  • I find the returning to the home screen gesture to be counter to what every other Mobile UI has been doing for the past decade. The swipe from the middle to go back might have been something I could adjust to, but it seems like this doesn’t work with android applications.
  • I find the UI to be… interesting. For things like the settings app, or simple apps it works fine. For other apps, I have some gripes.
    • Having to scroll all the way to the top of a list to access a context menu. This is something that I’ve encountered on some of the app stores.
    • The blurred background from my ambience. A lot of apps seem to use this as their default, but for readability it’s very distracting. It also gives a lot of apps this “samey” low-quality aesthetic.
    • No native app switcher. I’m getting used to it, but it feels a bit slow to go from app, home, find app, open app.
    • I don’t think I really like the pin dot aesthetic.
  • Android App integration: It is very nice to have. I would say essential on a device that likely won’t be receiving development support from big companies for a long time. There are some qualms I have here too.
    • Apps such as 1Password that allow autofilling don’t work with SailfishOS apps, which is fine, but a little disappointing.
    • The fingerprint sensor not working with android is also a little suspect. I’d expected that to work out of the box. It makes certain things much more tedious than they need to be.
    • Apps are laggy to the point of unusable in android. At the moment it is impossible to watch a YouTube video anywhere. The native browser also slows to the point that I can’t interact with anything.
    • Things like going back from the browser to an android app appear to be broken.
    • The back button is very annoying. Gestures that work with Android are superceded by SailFish OS, things such as queieng by swiping in Deezer can cause the app to close.
  • Confusing Elements:
    • The Jolla Store is an app store, but it is not the place I’d go to get most of my apps. This is confusing for a new user.
    • No real recommendation or sorting by user on app store. Makes it difficult to find applications I might use / enjoy.
  • Hardware
    • The hardware is mostly nice. The screen seems incredibly vibrant/saturated, and some of the text seems sharp on android apps.
    • The Camera is .. you know, fine.

I expected some element of jankiness throughout - so I’m not really all that surprised. It is a nice device, for what it is. I was just hoping that the android subsystem would have more polish, because that’s what would make it a daily driver until more applications and support is added.

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I totally agree with this. Swiping from the bottom and up has become a standard in order return to the home screen (pioneered by Blackberry OS10). Sailfish adopted the side swipe before this became standard but this is SW so it would be possible for Jolla to add an option that swipe up from bottom returns to the home screen. Please add this Jolla.

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The only real problem with android apps is that lagging especially on videos that mentioned. Thisvis to my mind a real bug as other SFOS devices didn’t suffer these problems. So I really hope for a fix of that.

Android lock pin and NFC for Android apps seems possible in the future (as we alrrady got Bluetooth working).

So just don’t give up too fast… :wink:

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