Jolla Mind2 progress

In other news:

Lots of good stuff coming!

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Dope! Thanks!!
But, and sorry to come back again to this, I still don’t get that much having the mind2. Yes, I could use it “for free”, but, without updates… It doesn’t make that much sense, isn’t it? With new models and functions.
Apart from that, did they say that the cloud won’t be private as the box?

Also, do you know how many users can connect simultaneously and work without problems?

As the old saying goes, “there is no cloud, only someone else’s computer”. :slight_smile:

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I like the name.
(Well, Nemo would have been best, but Mindy is good too).

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Jolla and Venho.ai presented at MWC 2025 their Mind2 “Mindy” :wink:. See https://techaeris.com/2025/03/03/mwc-2025-jolla-venho-ai-unveil-mindy/

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Will there be a venho App for sailfishos?

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It should be, it is a must!

FIRST LOOK at A NEW AI Computer - The Jolla Mind2: https://youtu.be/roNByeJDICo?si=VBXEaRQC0AeE4NXC from https://joshuastrobl.com/

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Out of curiosity, what is the current state of Mind2? Is it really usable yet, is someone using it daily? Are the answers faster/slower and more accurate / less accurate than other AI options like Mistral AI? Are those automatic task scheduling or other advertised functions there yet?

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Nope, still not more usable on a day-to-day basis than the last time. There were some improvements and with NPU acceleration the response is faster. But as this message, suggests there will be more news on July 2nd.

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(P.S. all the other advertised features a not yet available.)

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Thank you for the info! Good to see that they acknowledged the first setup wasn’t good and made it again. Interesting to see what they have achieved next week.

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This was Posted in the Discord Server Today by @AnttiSaarino

Discord Message very long (click to expand)

July 2025 Community Update – A Smarter Assistant, Powered by You

Following the July 2 Jolla Community Event, we’d like to share a deeper look at our next big leap: a modular, user-powered assistant architecture built for the real world – where your devices work together and your AI follows you, not the other way around.

Node-Based Architecture: Distributed Local AI

The attached image outlines our direction: a modular node-based system where all your devices can play a role. You decide which device handles what.

You can run LLM chat locally on your laptop, while Mind2 handles document digestion and memory tasks in the background.

Mind2 acts as your persistent assistant node – always on, processing documents and emails into a vector memory and a new concept called Activity Memory.

Cloud AI is available for heavy-duty tasks like analyzing large datasets or brainstorming – with user-defined encryption when dealing with sensitive content (e.g. names, organizations).

Why This Architecture?

Most users already have unused compute power – idle desktops and laptops. This model makes better use of it.

Assistants must follow the user – not be locked to one device. Whether you’re on mobile or desktop, your assistant works consistently. Mind2 remains your central, always-on server that keeps everything connected and in sync.

We can now move faster. A modular architecture and simplified frontend logic let us iterate quicker and deploy features more rapidly.

Mind2: Your Persistent Assistant Node

Mind2 is evolving to fit this new system. It becomes a smart, adaptive node in your setup – quietly managing your memory and documents while supporting tasks for your mobile and desktop devices.

As we stabilize the Venho Desktop app, we’ll transition Mind2 to this new role. It will continue to:

  • Process and store documents

  • Update Activity Memory

  • Support low-latency tasks for your other devices

You’ll get more features and power via the new Venho backend, while keeping what already works well.

Venho Desktop

We’re targeting an alpha release of the Electron-based desktop app in August. Many backend and frontend components are already running, but we’re focusing now on:

  • Finalizing Activity Memory: organizing topics, people, and projects

  • Building multi-document tools: comparison and gap analysis

  • UI for creating custom assistants: calendar bots, research agents, writers

  • Config interface for LLM routing: assign specific devices to AI tasks

  • Integrating Ollama, Quadrant, and Python inside the app

  • A Cursor-style document editor for high-context workflows

  • UX improvements: browsing activities, managing assistants, document flow

Mobile App

As soon as the desktop stabilizes, we’ll begin porting to mobile. Most backend logic will carry over. The key challenge will be efficient mobile operation and great UX.

Mind2 will preprocess Activity Memory, so the mobile app stays lightweight while remaining synced and useful.

We also announced at the Jolla Community event that the Sailfish-compatible Venho mobile app will be co-developed with the community. Stay tuned for more details on how to get involved.

Open Dialogue

This direction is built on your feedback and real-world testing. Let us know what you think – what excites you, what confuses you, and what you’d love to see next. We’re happy to clarify, discuss, and build this future with you.

– Antti

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Thank you for this! It is nice to be able to follow the Mind2 progress without discord :slight_smile:

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I have ordered (and payed) a Mind2 in December 2025.

At that time the stated delivery duration was 6-8 weeks and in the order confirmation it is mentioned that I would be notified when the device will be shipped.

Now, 3 months after my order there is still no update from Jolla regarding my purchase. All E-mail inquiries to Jolla store or also via ZenDesk are not answered, absolutely no feedback.

Is there anyone else who ordered a Mind2 recently and has received the device actually or got more information?

Currently I am a bit concerned about my investment of more than 600€. Thanks for any feedback or hint.

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I think we saw something related in this thread:

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I hope Jolla handles this sort of inquiry well also. I saw tho, Mind2 was displayed at MWC so…fingers crossed…

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I posted something similar a few days ago: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-mind2-hardware-update-a-deep-dive-with-sami-pienimaki/20679/25?u=zylesea

Albeit the long wait is - say - “emotionally demanding” and IMHO irritating to say the least, I am still of good will and faith. But there is a little uncomfortable smell around and Jolla should take care about that.

If there are delays (obviously there are!) - open and honest communication is king (blog, newsletter - something like that). A customer who gets the feeling to be seen and cared of is a generous, patient and faithful customer. If that feeling is lacking it can turn to wuite the opposite: spreading the bad experience, FUD, disappointment, etc. And that can ruin/hurt a company image to quite some serious extend.

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Thanks for all the feedback. I will also follow the other thread.

Then fingers crossed!

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Things on the mind2/venho.ai issue seem to move somehow: At least venho.ai updated their website. Now stating erarly access will start in April 26. Also there is another device mentioned beside the mind2, the mind2 enterprise server.

There are also resources available on venho’s site tackeling the isue what it is acually good for. Nice to see some new content there.

Still eagerly waiting for progress and delivery of the device…

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This has been mentioned a few times, I think both here and on the Discord. It was first showed off in November at Slush. It isn’t a server in the classical sense, it’s just a custom build for a client (accounting company) with some beefier hardware to run larger models. It isn’t productized and it looks more akin to a PC (uses I believe a Hyte Y60 with the touch screen module, then either it’s a large ATX or SSI-CEB board). I got a close-up look at it at Slush but didn’t have the chance to actually open the case to see what hardware it was running.

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