If you knew how often my phone ends up nose-diving onto concrete, you would not be that surprised. 
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My problem is always the battery getting old and that after some years a replacement is too expensive for an old phone. So maybe I am a lucky one
Yeah guess you pay 25€ for AppSupport license which stays. Then you can update here and then paying 5€ for the updates (four times, 20€ a year, for example). I like this idea, those who want to support can pay every month for a better software.
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Because most likely most people didn’t do it this way (as you did). It is more likely Jolla is getting more money with the subscription model.
Sure we should - just not speculating wildly.
They were not sold at the same time. This is an apples-to-oranges comparison.
Jolla C terms are the same as J1 and Tablet.
Call it what you will.
IMO you’ll at least have to choose between upgrades and AppSupport if you stop paying. I.e. it will be taken away at upgrade.
And if you need to reflash - don’t expect to have it back when not paying.
Full terms are likely TBD. But i do doubt remote kill-switches.
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I always give away my old devices to prospective Sailfish users, so there’s a certain positive aspect to buying a new phone every year. 
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This is a good idea, but I don’t see you complaining about… 
Paypal would probably take additional €2 per payment, either from Jolla or from me. So either Jolla would only get €36, or I would pay €84. Therefore FCK paypal and monthly subscriptions.
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Probably, but a lot of people here on the forum (usually not those who requested subscription) did it. Anyway, history shows that almost every company abused the subscription model by changing the rules in time.
Let’s see, that’s speculation…
1 - Would it be too much to expect a jolla blog article summarising the events of the day - so i don’t have to wade through pages of speculation in search of ‘the truth’?
2 - Re: the instanta-whining about the Community Phone being from a Turkish company. Can we please see an end to this nascent EUronationalism. It’s stupidity, pure and simple.
3 - I was initially delighted on hearing of a $300 Community Phone. Would have dropped the cash in an instant, simply for the convenience of not having to trouble myself with the responsibility of the OS install.
However, I have no interest in a subscription model. And I certainly will not boost the apparent popularity of a subscription model by ‘buying’ a Community phone instead of paying for a 10v licence.
If Jolla really wanted to guage the acceptability of subscription models, they’d offer the Community Phone in two versions:
a) $300 + $5.99/m
b) $400 + lifetime updates
I [would] buy the latter, precisely to signal boost my preferred payment model to Jolla.
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Now I finally see what the Mind2 could be good for
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this is a good start:
“Was funny to hear that Reeder is a true European phone. I don’t know what they teach in finnish schools but technically majority of Turkey (Samsun also) is in Asia. So they replace a shady partnership from a dictatorship country with another one. When west will not tolerate anymore Erdogan, what will Jolla do?”
Just like I did not get any serious AppSupport updates (Android version, security patches, etc.) on the 10 III in the last two years until only today, despite having paid €50 upfront for it?
Does it really take such a thing, and not simply a dedicated separate Donation / Support item to buy ( maybe also in a subscription form) in their shop, whenever one wants to?
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Yes. One may argue the last two years have been an exceptionally turbulent period in Jolla’s history, so they may not be entirely representative of what’s to come, though.
I just tried to point out what was asked by the community on this very forum. Don’t shoot the messenger. I’m personally not into this subscription madness myself.
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The funniest thing is that Xperia 10 IV and V are almost no upgrade on top of III and the C2 is slower than Xparia 10 II. I guess the best course of action is to just keep the III and avoid subscription entirely. 
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That’s how I see it.
So as long as you pay once the subscription (whatever reasonable minimum period there is), you are good to go.
App support was being updated once every X amount of years so far and the rest never (or getting axed like predictive text), so I don’t see any problem here.
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Jolla announced During Love Day 2 that support for Xperia 10 IV and V will be coming out some time in August 2024.
Jolla! It would be super if you could at your earliest convenient time let us know what version of the Xperia 10 IV and V base firmware you want to have at Sailfish install time!
Once we get our phones and run them a while on Android (to verify they are functioning normally, as you recommend), the system might want to update itself to beyond what the Sailfish installer expects. And this of course might cause issues, I ended up spending time downgrading my 10 III before installation for exactly this reason.
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TL;DR
Android 13
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Sailfish 5 apparently will upgrade AppSupport to Android 13. The specification of Jolla C2 says it brings API Level 33, which is Android 13
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