Thanks. I need some Android-Apps for me for “daily driver”.
Could you perhaps do the test again with Android-Support (+ some Android-Apps) activated, please?
That would show the direct influence.
How can I install that, I only found:
https://openrepos.net/content/basil/system-monitor
An installation in the SFOS Storeman-app is not possible for me, see picture (?).
Previously, I tested with exactly one Android app (APK Pure) installed. I had run the application but terminated it. Power drain was excessive.
I used Crest to observe that APK Pure had a background process that was chewing power constantly, despite the application being closed. I posted a picture of the System Monitor showing the change in power consumption when disabling Android further up in this thread.
My conclusion with a sample space of 1, was that Android Apps are not well behaved and best avoided.
After the update to 4.5.0.16 I made the same measure with the same settings:
Mean value: discharging 1% of the battery in 75,7 minutes .
This is only a small improvement, I hoped for a better efficiency.
During one hour I count about 13 measure points which are < -100 mA.
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This is not necessarily a drainage problem, but after the latest update (4.5) CPU sleep has been acting like a roller coaster. This is the last 12 hours with mostly idling (a little bit of browsing on this forum and such at around clock 19.00, which really doesn’t show):
This has happened since, and it happens all the time. Looking at htop or Lighthouse nothing particular seems to pop up. My configuration is pretty basic (on Xperia 10 III). Only calendar syncs to Nextcloud, but even that is set to manual.
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Sadly, 10 III power consumption on 4.5.0.18 seems to be even worse than on 4.4 
So it seems. Interesting.
Does anyone have a suggestion how to figure out what application(s)/process(es) is doing that in my case?
(Referring to my earlier post: High battery drainage Xperia 10 III - #195 by Blumenkraft)
Mine doesn’t, and I have everything but mobile data disabled. Looking at cpu usage it is some system processes causing the activity, and I’m unable to find out what is going on.
This kind of erratic behaviour was/is visible on the GS5 port from @piggz from 4.4 … I’ve been trying to track it down for some time. I did:
zypper install sysstat
pidstat -I 1 10800 > /var/log/pidstats.log 2>&1 &
To collect exact stats. but that’s a log of log data to work with.
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I am not seeing that at all. It is identical with 4.5.0.16 and consumption is now below where I can be bothered to care any more. I see no changes whatsoever and consumption is consistent and low in normal “standby”.
@Speedy-10
Yes, it looks it sleeps well, but it also looks like yours has constant CPU usage (10-15% estimated) until you plug in the charger. I find that odd.
@eson Your phone also looks like it sleeps ok’ish, and the CPU usage is also quite interesting (to say the least) until you plug in the charger.
@poetaster
Thank you for the tip. I will look into it when i have time.
It isn’t necessarily weird to have high(reported percentages) CPU usage when a CPU is (near) idle.
It could very well be reporting a low(maximum) clock speed in that state and/or using only the ‘little’ cores.
I think metrics like this are only confusing stuff(al least in this case when it doesn’t seem to matter for draining mA) . My guess is that the drainage ‘problem’ has little to with CPU usage/states, but is more datacom/modem related.
In my case I know that Wifi is using a lot of power. Setting Situations app to disable wifi when screen is disabled saves 15% a day.
Edit:
The reason why I think it’s more datacom/modem related is because that part is fishy overall on the 10III . In my case(T-Mobile NL business ) I had to use SIM slot two, one just didn’t reliably work.
Now it’s OK. I can get two days with multiple exchange accounts synchronizing , Android including Signal and Whatsapp running(MicroG enabled) and moderate usage. Could be better ,but good enough for me.
I understand what you’re saying, and you might be right, but at least in my case this kind of behaviour did not exist before 4.5.0.
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“Standby” or idle power consumption of the 10 III is MANY TIMES HIGHER than that of the XA2 Ultra. As I wrote so many times, the XA2U consumes merely 9-10 mA when sleeping, whereas the lowest the 10 III is able to ever go is 32-35 mA, and usually not below 40-45 mA. Since July 2022 when I got it, I have NEVER seen in 10 III’s power consumption logs any single occurence of a figure lower than >30 mA, whereas my XA2 Ultra goes down to 9-10 mA every single freaking time it goes to sleep.
I already posted a screenshot from the XA2 Ultra, let me quote it:
As you can easily calculate, it is a difference of some 4-5 TIMES vs. the 10 III, which is simply HORRIBLE considering that the 10 III has a much more power efficient SoC, much more power efficient display, and so on.
The XA2 Ultra doing nothing but with the screen turned on (and only Battery Buddy running and showing the stats) eats some 50-60 mA, whereas the 10 III in the same conditions eats >100 mA. And so on.
This is what matters - raw power consumption figures, and not some fancy graphs. These raw mA figures clearly show how pathetically unoptimized its power consumption is if it eats that much more energy than XA2U while having that much less power hungry hardware.
Therefore, as long as the 10 III eats SEVERAL TIMES more energy than the XA2U (whereas it should be eating LESS, due to having more power efficient SoC and display) I just can’t agree that the 10 III’s power consumption is anywhere near of what can be called “normal”, “low”, or anything like that.
Last but not least, as it was also already mentioned, all reviews of the 10 III running its genuine Sony Android praise it for spectacular battery life, and place it on top of all rankings. See e.g. how it is on the 24th place of all phones ever ranked by GSMarena, with majority of the phones ranked higher than only because of having considerably bigger batteries (usually 5000-6000 mAh), which means that with its battery capacity it is actually a real champion. Well, on Sony’s Android - but not on SFOS. I would never manage to reach 137 hours on SFOS, even with literally everything disabled and the device totally idling, let alone conducting any test procedures. I’m afraid I wouldn’t even reach half of it.
Whether it is because of SFOS itself or AOSP binaries, I don’t know. I am only stating a fact.
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Your long, and most likely correct, comparative rant about the XA2 Ultra is interesting, but unrelated to any negative change in 10iii behaviour across point releases, which I didn’t observe.
As you point out, the 10iii appears objectively less efficient than an older SoC based phone with SFOS and this is the unfortunate state of play which everyone would like addressed.
Given my experience with the Volla22/GS5 I think you are correct. I haven’t tried using situations yet, but I noticed that turning off wifi (leaving 4G on) overnight saved about 10% in 6-8 hours. I’ll try situations. Thanks!
Thank you for repeating this, it should not be necessary because its quite easy to understand, but somehow it is necessary to repeat it over and over again.