Feedback on Jolla C2

Well…Every Sailfish Device need time for maturing. Jolla Phone was matured with SF 2.0/3.0, My Xperia 10 III is quite stable now, but it was very buggy, when it was new…

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They already communicated that it will be both: subscription and one time payment.

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I know, but the C2 comes with a subscription for twelve months of updates, so every C2 customer is now, or as soon as they are able to get the device working, part of the subscription model for twelve months. If, during that time, the big problems aren’t fixed or there’s only very few updates, who in their right mind is going to renew the subscription rather than getting a permanent license?

The 12-month subscription itself is already more expensive (€ 60) than the previous permanent licenses (€ 50, with a hefty discount if bought early) ever were, and up until now I don’t think Jolla have figured out how to price the new permanent licenses, because if you assume that they’re going to update the devices for at least three years (think of the Jolla Phone’s seven years of updates), a permanent license would have to cost about € 200 (two hundred euro!) to offer the same value for money. And if either model turns out to have been cheaper in the long run either because the updates didn’t last as long (so that the subscription was cheaper) or because they lasted much longer (so that the permanent license was cheaper), people who picked the ultimately more expensive model will complain they’ve been scammed. The subscription-based model was a bad idea from the start.

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OT: Once upon a time, long ago, there was a patch ‘no central clock’ or similar. It shifted the clock to the left for notched devices (ports, Volla). So it shouldn’t be so complex to write a patch or tweak a little to shift the clock from below the notch to left of the notch.
Filename on the Volla was /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/statusarea/StatusArea.qml.
Maybe this still exists in a similar kind, so that it can be tweaked.

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Another Idea is to put the hours of the time on the left of the notch and the minutes to the right:

HH NOTCH MM

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I also got that issue that Wi-Fi didn’t reconnect itself but turn it off and back on was always enough.

Bluetooth quality sometimes drops beyond usability. Might be connected with the fact that it sometimes just lost the connection during call. Annoying :roll_eyes:.

In Settings/WLAN, there is on top the WLAN on/off switch, below is the list of stored WLANs. The WLAN AP to automatically reconnect should be ‘selected’ (shining dot), even if WLAN (top line) is off.
Does WLAN auto-reconnect this way?

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It should but in my case no.

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I got mine today, it had 49 % power. So i put on in the power outled.
It began to start up on its own. i had to put in the language en the country and after that a pincode. i put in a 5 number pincode. so i wanted to connect to wifi, and that did not work. i says reboot the fone. now it will not come further than the pincode and dont start up farther.
What to do?

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sit and wait.
like at least 10 other unlucky ones.

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I set up a poll in the Jolla_C2_first_time_use_instructions thread. Up to now, about half of those who responded are affected by the what-so-ever-(encryption_no-wifi?)-bug

I guess one (hopefully near) day we will know what causes the bug. I am really curious because so far, I cannot see a specific pattern

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I do hope that you realised that this poll is heavily biased.
Many of users without that issue probably don’t respond to it because they don’t even read the forum. You can see many users here opening new topics and ask already answered questions.

I do read forum even my C2 works relatively good. Especially battery life :heart_eyes: is impressive.

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I seriously hope you are right! I am still waiting for my C2 to arrive and hope I can vote “not affected”

Considering that there should soon be about 1000 C2 out there, the poll is not at all representative and is biased, for sure.

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I think it’s easy because we know that exactly 1000 devices are out and surely all failures/bugs/not-working-devices will be reported here.
So (users-reporting-bug) * 0,1 = failure-rate in percent.

I’m not sure how can we be sure about that.

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Every purchaser has a jolla account, otherwise he can’t order the device. And I can’t imagine that a user with account and defect device will not report but sit and wait and do nothing.
Formula fixed :wink:

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According to formula the current percentage is 1.8% (18 of 34 voters). Sounds better as it looks from the posts here.

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Yes, a huge amount of posts but I didn’t count how many people are affected. 1,8% is better than 52,94%.

@Seven.of.nine How do you know that 1000 devices are out? Are you assuming that everybody that did the pre-order has received their phone? I haven’t taken up the offer although I did pay the pre-order fee.

So is it true that there are 1000 devices out?