I was one minute away from buying a Fairphone gen 6 with Murena e/os 3.5 when I discovered the Jolla phone and Sailfish OS 5.
Fairphone has now established itself as a “proper” manufacturer. They have phones and headphones. They are always in stock and can be purchased from many different resellers in many countries.
You don’t have to pre-order to be included in the next batch.
Is it at all likely that Jolla would reach out to Fairphone? You pay a 49 Euro premium to get the Fairphone gen 6 with e/os preloaded. Maybe they could do that with Sailfish OS 5 too?
I think the Fairphone customers are among the most likely to opt for a different operating system than say your average Samsung Galaxy customer.
But I am not looking for a community port. I am looking for Sailfish OS 5 to be more like Murena and e/os.
Murena has managed with the collaboration with Fairphone and their murena.io online packages to be a true and cohesive alternative to big tech.
With all due respect I don’t think Sailfish will succeed if it’s only available on their own device in small production batches or on community driven ports for old Sony devices. I don’t think I’ll take off like that.
I just decided I want to go for J2 preorder. I want to get away from Apple but my iPhone12 still is working perfectly fine, so I don’t risk much besides the money of course.
Fairphone is aiming for the mainstream market, albeit on the “fair” end of it. In the current state I would think that sailfish is to steep even for that target group. However, as Google is clamping down Android we are going to see how the future of /e/os is going to look like.
Personally I would have loved to see a Fairphone with Sailfish OS, but the way to go for the time being is probably a community port first. I totally agree that Jollyboys should focus on their reference device(s) first and foremost, given the limited resources. Spreading them thin won’t do anything good.
Thanks. I don’t think I can add too much yet. I informed myself a bit about what I am getting in to beforehand and like to believe to have a rough idea, but I’ll have never had my hands on Sailfish OS.
The apparently better than expected sales numbers and the lively community where what convinced me to take the risk and go straight for the J2.
It has been said many times by many users that Fairphone with official support would be amazing. And there has been talks in the past but they didnt find good enough agreement for reason or another. It has been suggested from Jolla’s end that if we are interested, we should seek to contact Fairphone about this. There is nothing that Jolla can do without Fairphone agreeing to the deal.
But for now I think it is better that Jolla puts whole focus on the Jolla phone launch!
It would be unwise if Jolla did that now while they are preparing the launch of their second phone with a removable back and replaceable battery. This really is a revival story. In the past there has been contact between Jolla and Fairphone but to no result. Fairphone is an Android phone and e/OS degoogles it. e/OS depends on Google for its devices and on FDroid for apps. Jolla’s new phone will be totally independent, hardware and software. What more do you want? Just have some patience and wait for Jolla2. If you definately want to try Sailfish on an Fairphone, why not try porting a Fairphone 4 or 5? Some devs here did this already.
Fairphone is based on nice ideas, yet it could not be as ‘green’ as it wanted to be. That’s why they launched their 6th device. As a ‘grandparent for the climate’ I see a lot of greenwashing.
I have both C2 and FP4, and I try to buy as many Fairphones as possible at work (we have mandatory MDM on all work phones).
For me personally, the Fairphones are perfect phones for trying out alternative images and they have a great build quality at the same time as they are repairable .
As I have bought a C2 recently, and I simply just want a completely open phone to play with. I have no plans of leaving SailfishOS - it is fantastic and my personal choice of mobile OS.
It makes sense to me. Let me explain with a comparison.
There were recent discussions where users talked about an Android multi-boot Multi Boot Option or the ability to install PMOS on the Jolla Phone Upcoming Jolla Phone bootloader locking and flashability I’m not trying to re-open the particular conversations here and I’m not pointing fingers at those who proposed, agreed or disagreed (and I’m not quoting the exact messages).
The discussions were not supportive. It seems to me that if even within a community of SFOS users and developers, who all came here for a hackable linux phone, there isn’t support for trying out or installing other linux-based OSes on the hackable phone, then I perfectly can imagine the same happening within the Fairphone community.
Trying to get Fairphone users or the company enthusiastic at the idea that Jolla (competitor) users installing SFOS on the Fairphone hardware, is about the same as external users coming here and trying to get Jolla users or the company enthusiastic about replacing SFOS with PMOS on the the upcoming Jolla Phone.
Again, I’m not pointing fingers; it’s an exercise of introspection that in my opinion explains why there was never a lot of support for that to happen.
An idea could be that once in a while, the new Sailfish X port is a Fairphone instead of a Sony Xperia.
As far as I understand, the criteria for feasibility of Sailfish X port is the availability of AOSP (please anyone correct me if I’m missing something, like the need for commercial agreement with manufacturer which they would have with Sony but not with Fairphone as explained).
Given the work by @mal , we already know it can work (I don’t seem to see more issues on the community ports—at least the most used ones—than the official Sailfish X ports in general).
I’ll try to keep my—future—J2 as long as my J1 but I would (have) love(d) a Fairphone with Sailfish X between 2 Jolla phones (not very fond of Sony but that’s my problem).
Anyway, right now we should let them concentrate on the J2 (can’t wait to get mine).
I don’t know where @Kea got that knowledge from, but I’m pretty sure they meant that Jolla the company and Fairphone the company were in contact, not their communities.
There’s gotta be some longstanding feud, bad blood, rap beef or something between the jollyboys and the fairphoneguys to explain the inability to find any way to cooperate. Stolen girlfriend-level stuff. East coast vs West. Taylor vs Katy.
