Banking apps on Sailfish OS

As of today the Dutch Rabobank app no longer works, status A4. Xperia 10 iii, no MicroG.

7.45.0 was the last working version which I held on to for a long time but they stopped allowing usage of this version, it has to be updated. Newer versions crash instantaneously.

I have MicroG and almost all Android apps needed for my daily usage. Couple of special apps do not work. Specially one Finnish app meant for bird identification and that is because I have not been able to get location to work in Android apps.
Another problem is described here Cannot select a seat on VR Matkalla app
I have spare Android and noticing the need to use that is reducing every day. The most critical is when you have to verify to Google your identity. That is not working with my Jolla C2.

I switched from X10Iii to C2 and I do not manage to get OP mobiili working. I did try echo “kernel.yama.ptrace_scope = 0” > /etc/sysctl.d/91-opmobiili.conf, but still OP mobiili closes before login page. Any hints what to do? I’m running latest version of Sailfish, tried app versions 72, 74 and 75, and MicroG is installed.

I’ve been able to install the Nationwide app and get as far as the login screen without it complaining of a rooted device

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Check the file /etc/sysctl.d/91-opmobiili.conf in case the funky quotation marks have made it to the file and the phone can’t parse the contents properly. Also don’t forget to boot your phone after.

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Thanks! Everything working now, I think I had not rebooted the device.

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#France
Boursobank
G1

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Yup,

Andrew makes a good example here Revolut fails loading since 7.22 version (27 october 2020) - #70 by abranson

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Seems to be because of the outdated android webview?

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Ah again? Man that sucks. Really annoying that we can’t easily update it.

Confirmed. X10iii, 5.0.0.68, microG installed. Really annoying.

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WISE. Belgium. Jolla C2 microG installed. Works without any problems.

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The app for Argenta (Belgium) has always worked on all versions of Sailfish, on probably all devices (at least on Jolla Phone, Jolla Tablet, Jolla C, Jolla C2, Xperia 10 II, Xperia X), with all versions of App Support and regardless whether or not MicroG was installed.

Wouldn’t it make sense to recreate this well-intended but long and difficult to read list as a big table (or a separate table for each country) with colour/emoji coding, and just drop the twentyfour (!) different categories? Like this:

Bank name App name Does it work? Extra info Version tested OS version + device
Good bank Good app :white_check_mark: = yes, perfectly you need microG 5.0.0.72, Jolla C2
Good bank Okay app :construction: = works alright, some caveats, see extra info version x.x.x.x doesn’t work well, you need version x.x.x.y
Bad bank Bad app :cross_mark: = doesn’t work
Good bank Web-based :white_check_mark: = yes, perfectly native browser 5.0.0.72, Jolla C2
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We could also break the one long list to separate per country lists and use the Hide details -function to hide the all the lists, so the reader can find their country of choice easier/faster and expand it to check only the details that are related to their interests.

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That would make it less long but wouldn’t really increase legibility. You (literally) need a guide to interpret the list, with all the different codes, version numbers, usernames, and so on. Even contributing requires a literal guide, which is a bit much when the intention is just to inform others whether or not your banking app is functional.

I agree the number of different codes has ran out of control, but I’m also worried if the average forum user can foobar the table formatting when adding new banks to it…

Well, I just learned how to do it when making that post! There’s a visual editor that just requires you to right click to insert a new row, and then you just fill in the details as needed. Seems easier to explain than the current instructions, at least to me.

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I know making/editing a table is easy, but I was talking about average user. You do know how stupid people can be, if given the chance? At minimum you should test how breaking the table formatting affects the readability.

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I started this thread and table and I’m all for making it more readable and useful in any way. Here are my thoughts.

  • I started this so that the next time I choose a bank I can choose one that I can use with SailfishOS. So I will scroll to my country and the bank I’m interested in. There I see what experiences other users have had. The format we have now works for that but it could be more beautiful.
  • I wouldn’t like to have have less information in the table. Different versions of the app/SFOS/MicroG can yeld different results.
  • Originally I wanted to know how the apps work with SFOS. Somebody added how the web interfaces work on different browsers. That increased the number of codes considerably. You could argue that that should be in an other table but I think it didn’t make the table more difficult to read. You just have to remember which codes you are intrerested in.
  • Now everybody is encouraged to add their experience to the list themselves. I sometimes return to list to change some formatting gone wrong but on the whole the list doesn’t require much maintainence and errors in editing don’t make it unreadable. I can’t guarantee to take care of the table forever so if it is moved to an other medium it shouldn’t become more fragile in a way that one user’s editing error makes it disappear for others.
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