Why don’t you stick with this device though?
From what I see it’s still up to date.
The port will not be developed anymore afai know. The dev moved to newer devices.
Sure, but I’m using a moto G2 with sfos 4 still as an example.
I don’t see anything that I miss from sfos 5 with that device so that leads me to believe 5.0.0.67 would be able to be used for years, especially since you don’t use AAS.
Old xperias are getting hard to find. I was hopping the j2 would be around iphone 16e size (which again is not comfortable in the hand) but nope.
Same here although I am much older. We can adapt the size of letters by ourselves but in the 10 III it does not work well.
A tiny device lays good in the hand and it fits in a jeans pocket but it isn’t functional enough anymore. We do other things with our phones than in 2013. Contemporary devices also need a stronger processor and a bigger battery etc. We don’t have to accept every innovation but nostalgia often is useless.
Today I opened Guardfish on the 10 III again and it was messy. This is not the only app with texts cropped up or cut off at the side. Please stop whining like little children that want something while parents said no.
About 3,5 jack: it is a pity that most brands skipped this. Apple was the first.However this is not a huge problem because it can be solved with an adapter.
Instead of continuing to dispute about the hardware, we should encourage Jolla to invest in the software to make Sailfish attractive to more consumers.
Sailfish looks beautiful on a bigger screen!
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I agree with you, but this specific part is not because of the size of the phone, but because 10 III is just way too narrow.
Readability improved significantly for me on smaller 16:9 device, so the aspect ratio is really the problem.
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That is true, but the good old aspects ration appear to sealed irreversibly in the past
This is completely and utterly inappropriate.
@Kea is a well respected person here for a long time now. I share her/his opinion on screen sizes. I don’t share others. But ageism is a red line.
Stop that.
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So you are just completely blind to her arrogant insult about children, parents, etc? Man, this is a a direct attempt to insult me and anybody else interested in this topic. Don’t be a hypocrite defending wrongdoings of others.
@Kanthal: I understand your question, but this device is relatively slow, has difficulties in fixing a position, which is a pita while trying to orientate in a foreign city or hiking in the wild. If I brighten up the screen to the full in direct sunlight, that combined with GPS and mobile network, the battery life shrinks really fast.
I flashed my Poco X3 Pro, which I used before to Android 16 and it runs much better because of the better hardware.
I owned the J1, a Nokia N9, a Nokia N900, always trying to get away from Android. The best experiences by now were with the N9 and this C2.
I am aware of the fact, that C2 is kind of a sample/study but nontheless, I do have some necessities to be fulfilled to be able to once and for all go away from google/android.
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Nokia N9 was wonderful indeed.
But why do you think they would sell enough to be profitable so they built (or better say let built) such phone, especially with such an high price (why would it need better specs then the other new model? also why do you need so much ram in a phone? a ps5 also has 16gb)
A number of facts give me reason to expect potential success of the second, smaller phone:
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As I already mentioned, there are 401 people (41%) voted for 5”.
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It seems that the current success with 6” phone was even unexpected. There is even such quote on the main preorder page:
* 579€ special price locked, runs until a total of 10k pre orders are reached. Due to higher than expected demand, the runtime extended to be open until the end of February 2026.
- Current political situation with American threats to Greenland and Europe, the new economic war has already started as a fact. I am well into politics and I expect a rapid surge in the interest to alternative OS for phones in coming months, because Android is a direct security risk.
And I like the approach of Jolla in general: polls to find out the interest, then paid preorders. Pretty safe for Jolla in terms of sales risk I would say.
In terms of price this is just a suggestion because it was also a second popular choice of 600-800 euro. I am personally fine with specs of the main 6” Jolla phone, but in general I aim for higher price range. As for you question about 16gb it is more like “why not, the faster, the better’, but I agree that 12 gb seem to be enough for a modern phone.
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@Stan.Smith You might be ‘well in politics’ but honestly, might be you ignore some social behavioural aspects like ‘hording’ in times of upcoming social unsecurity, means spending less money for things you don’t really need in favour of buying stocks of things people think, might be essential or soon out of stock because of the changing political situation. I’d rather guarantee you the smaller Jolla phone not being on that list 
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I think some voted for anything between 5 and 6 not 5" (some posts say 5.5 others say 5.8,…)
Unfortunately, I dont expect such rise in interest for a different mobile os but it may help huawei in sales (as they have a familiar os, same apps but no google)
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but lets be honest, how many really stop using something like amazon, paypal or the other shit? probably not many
Well, I can speak for myself that I definitely need such phone and explained in detail that it has always been a complete dealbreaker for me and will be. And for years reading some opinions of smaller phones apologists (we call them normal phones in fact, not bricks) I can say, that others feel the same who have always used such phones. Nokia → sony compact → zenfones perfectly allowed that for the last 10 years. I definitely did not start this topic just to waste my time, there is an exact purpose. And we can only speculate about the opinion of those 401 voters for 5” phone, but the fact is not going anywhere.
Obviously, I expressed the same idea. I also need something around 5.5” or a bit more. But here another poll will help. I would even buy the exact 5”, I don’t care. Xperia XZ2 compact was the ideal phone in terms of the size, but the screen-to-body ratio was still pretty bad. I even still use it for a secondary sim, but the type-c port does not work for data transfer anymore.
I have never used paypal, don’t need it. But yeah, amazon looks pretty unavoidable, I would wait until the EU forces to sell amazon European business to locals (the worst case scenario of serious economic or even real war).
I disagree that OS situation is comparable to those examples. I literally had Nokia N9, it was real and perfectly working, a complete replacement for the Android. But Nokia was too incompetent in business decisions and lost everything because of that.
Microsoft bought Nokia, that was the End for meego…
meego was the end for nokia…
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I should probably take the blame here, as I don’t think @Stan.smith mentioned any other specs than display size and price. So those 16 GB you mention are likely from my post about the “Jolla 2 Mini” above.
I think your questions are relevant, though, regardless whether they’re directed towards me or Stan. Picking the intersection between the most voted for display size and the second-most voted for price doesn’t result in a phone design. The other five-six areas covered by the polls in that original post about the new phone need to be considered along with a host of additional things not in the polls.
Only then will the “mini” be concrete enough for people to consider buying (or not). Whether Jolla will commit to manufacturing that final design or whether it will attract enough buyers to become reality is another matter, but I am not going to tell anyone they shouldn’t even think about it.
(Assuming there’s a 3% market for small phones and the absolute minimum order quantity is 2000 devices, then the “mini” will be barely viable when J2 sales reaches ~70’000 phones. We still have a way to go.)