Will Jolla Phone w SailfishOS be workable for me?

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Hi guys,

I am sure there has been a lot of posts about this subject, but I haven’t been able to get a specific answer to my needs.

I really wanna get rid of Big Tech, but I also know, that some apps I just need to have a functional life and social life with people around me. I can’t really force friends and families to change behavior just because I am pro-active in this case. I am using linux for all pcs in my house. I am selfhosting a lot of stuff, to less rely on american services. However, in the regards of my main phone driver, I have current needs, I just can’t change. As long as there is options for it to work, I can still live with it (for instance port options, apks, etc) but I just need the service. My list of Android apps, I have to work on the Jolla phone is:

Proton mail (Needs Notifications ON)

Signal (needs notifications ON)

Meta’s messenger (atleast untill the world gets rid of that crap) (Needs Notifications ON)

Spotify (my main source of music and podcasts/news)

Jellyfin

Bluetooth connection to my car, in case of phone calls and music/podcast

EV charging apps. (I have other options, it’s just convienient)

Strava (or another sports app, as long as I can measure my runs via gps and track progress)

My Renault app

Mistral LeChat

Some way to connect to a fitness watch of any kind. I am open to invest in a new one, if there is one with better support for SailfishOS.

Would these dealbreakers be possible, either by native alternatives or via the android support? I would love to get some clear answers, since these a possible deal breakers for me if nothing listed above works. Espacially, I am afraid that Notifications won’t work on any of my current messages apps, which would make the phone useless for me.

Hope you’ll help me.

Peace out, and happy sailing!

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Most of those will work with the Android Support, you will be able to download them from the android Aurora Store. Now will one of those apps have small issues, or get some issues with whatever update that would make the app buggy on the Android App Support, that’s always a possibility.

Notifications on Android apps mostly work. Just enable background activity in their settings.

Bluetooth calls and podcast play works on a car.

You have to test a little by yourself, cause we can’t test all the list of your apps now, but overall i think you’ll get a phone that suits your needs. If needed, just get an old Xperia 10 II second hand, flash Sailfish X, and test each of those.

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for some of your requirements there are even great native apps, like Signal and Spotify. Also some Fitness watches are supported through amazfish app

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I already pre-ordered the Jolla Phone, because I watched a couple of videos that sold it to me. But then I red somewhere that Notifications might not work on messenger apps via android services on the SailfishOS which imidietly got me worried.

I can live with buggy things from time to time, I am a linux user by heart, so I am used to things break etc. No problem for me. But it will be a problem if notifications suddenly aren’t supported on messages apps for instance, then I will probably get divorced xD

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Forgot mentioning Bluetooth Headphones are also a must.

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What? I’m a dedicated linux user since 15 years, and NOTHING ever breaks… literally, never! If I don’t act stupid, that is.

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I don’t use any Android messaging apps myself, so I can’t test this directly. However, if you install microG, it should allow push notifications to work through Firebase Cloud Messaging.

Bluetooth headphones are natively supported on Sailfish OS. However, higher-quality A2DP audio codecs may not be available yet.

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I’m always acting stupid, maybe that is the problem xD always wanna go to the limits or change up things I shouldn’t touch.

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Generally I would say notifications work if you set them up properly. For some apps you will need MicroG and cloud based notifications. I have even working authentication popups from Microsoft authenticator currently.

Proton even might have bridge to link it to native email. I think there has been good discussion in this forum somewhere. Search is your friend with this one.

Spotify works, don’t know what Jellyfin is so can’t comment that. There is even native way to listen spotify, but I haven’t tried it, yet.

Bluetooth currently is a little bit hit or miss if I’m not mistaken. Situation might get better with upcoming bluetooth support, but I think big problem is that cars don’t recognise the phone as android auto compatible. I might be mistaken here, again might find better answer from this forum somewhere.

EV apps, I don’t know why wouldn’t they work. If they need NFC, then those won’t work as AAS don’t support NFC currently.

Don’t know about Strava, but would assume it to work. Or some other sport app, there is even some native options.

Currently if My Renault App needs bluetooth, I would assume it doesn’t work. But don’t know for sure and situation might change with upcoming Bluetooth support.

Le chat works.

Some additional search here might bring some light to you, but generally I don’t think your exceptions are unreasonable. I would guess you will be fine :slight_smile:

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Yawn yawn yawn.
Another list of random Android apps without which the world apparently falls apart.
Expect to have to adapt - don’t hassle us for it.

Imagine if every new user did this - the forum would fall apart instead.

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My Renault, is just an app to see my car, change settings and charging program remotely. Not some fancy app, and it’s controlled over the internet.

Jellyfin is an opensource MediaPlayer/management service Just like Plex, but better. Via local network. I use this as the households media server/streaming platform, other than the Danish platforms.

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If you want people (I gues you don’t), to leave mainstream big tech companies, for pro privacy EU options, you have to be able to provide some services for people, to make it an easier transition. A lot of people also rely on Government apps, which I haven’t even listed here, bevause I don’t expect them to work, and have to make use of the “offline" Alternatives. I hope, like everyone else, that we in the future (like 10 years time and Jolla Phone 6) we have a huge sailfish user base with 200 million users, ans jolla has 5 million units sold a year. Then we will all live with native apps, because software companies will need to make them for the userbase. Also for banking and other purposes.

But we have to start somewhere. I for instance doesn’t have a “work-phone" so I have no alternative than my main driver, which makes the use case a lot more reliant on these android options, because I don’t have an alternative.

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That seems rather backwards - not listing the actually kind-of necessary things, but going all in on the objectively optional. Since you use Linux already, you should understand the ridiculousness in just hard-requiring everything be the same with no adaptation.

But my primary point is - don’t me-me-me the problem; check the compatibility database, go search for the apps you mention - surely basically all have already been discussed. And finally; simply accept an 80-90% success rate and chill out.

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need someone to code voip.ms app to work on Jolla so it can be added into the compatibility database

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Well, everyone has right to determine what are really necessary for them. I know most of these apps can be found from this forum, but it is not always easy if the apps don’t have dedicated thread. There are a lot of good threads covering these things, but I believe someones just want to hear from existing community members what kind of kinks they might find when they finally have the device. And that is absolutely okay, they can mark one answer as a solution and we can move on. It took like 5min of my time to guide op, no harm done

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That’s where we disagree.
With 10’000 threads on the same format the forum becomes unsearchable and 9’990 of them will be false and outdated before long.
This is a persistent forum - not a chat. What you describe is non-persistent chat behavior.

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If it goes like this we will get just another Android. I don’t want apps for everything and not made by software companies, as the only choice. Instead more services should provide open APIs so that the community can write open source apps. That’s what I hope.

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As long as this forum is basically only place where you can chat about SailfishOS so that enough people get their answers and conversation about stays on topic I don’t see the harm. People need ti have place where they can ask questions, and I don’t see anything else remotely as good place as this forum. Topics can be marked solved and life continues

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One thing that could help: Someone should place a link to the compatibility database more prominent here on the forum so that new users don’t have to search in the forum for that information which is scattered all around the forum.

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This is the way! That site is amazing

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