yeah, that’s just hilarious. and europeans will swallow it.
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Whataboutism - oh how much we love whataboutism!
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Is avdroid the maker of aurora? I didn’t get the whole article
Sounds avdroid develops some apps. Translation says they develop a telegram client and an alternative to Android AppSupport.
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Some more info: https://tadviser.com/index.php/Company:Avroid_(Auroid)
Looks like the Aurora OS 5.1 update brought major changes to the user interface.
Some of them are good things I already wanted myself in Sailfish:
- app icons on the tiles of running apps, so I can quickly scan the app list and identify the one I want
- permanent row of apps at the bottom of the home screen (like the original version of sailfish had)
Some of them are bad:
- the overall user interface is hideous and drifts away from the beautiful artsy transparency-everywhere style of Jolla
Some of them are lame (for now, at least):
- the “implementation” of the permanent row of apps
All in all, some interesting things happening with the offspring of Jolla’s Sailfish OS.
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It looks like Aurora OS 5 has more things that I already wanted in Jolla’s UI:
- settings for automatic tile placement for running apps in most-recently-used order
- swipe up from bottom to minimize current app
Excellent improvements.
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Personally, I would be annoyed if the active programs were resorted. You can minimize the programs from the side. I think it’s better, because otherwise you have to minimize the program first and then start a new one.
What do you mean you have to minimize the program first and then start a new one?
Isn’t that what we do now?
I don’t understand the scenario.
Can you explain more?
What am I missing?
Swiping up from bottom opens the app launcher, allowing you to open another app without minimizing the current one. Since the sides of the phone are easily accessible, I don’t think we would gain much usability-wise by adding another minimizing gesture.
This is something I would find useful. Often, when I have around 10 apps open, the list seems a bit chaotic at first glance. Some covers are easily identifiable, while others aren’t.
I agree that adding a swipe-from-bottom gesture to minimize the current app is debatable, but there is one HUGE argument for such a gesture: both iOS and Android have this gesture and it has already become the de facto gesture for minimizing an app.
It is so much a de facto gesture that it is already muscle memory in most people who use gestures.
I would argue the side swipes should be kept because you can use them to peek at the time, at the notifications, at the other apps running, etc.
This is useful functionality unique to Jolla’s user interface, there is no reason not to keep it in its original form or even maybe enhance it somehow.
But not adding the de facto swipe gesture for minimizing apps is counterproductive.
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That’s more of an argument not to do it right away. I see that with my wife’s Android phone how terrible this control is.
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How is it terrible?
What is the problem with it?
Not having the de facto gesture just for the sake of being different is counterproductive.
Be unique
But not too unique, for heavens sake!
Why would Jolla want to change the “minimize app”-gesture, that has been there from the very beginning of the SFOS? (I personally still want Jolla to bring back the old swipe off the screen -method of closing tabs in browser instead of those tiny tiny crosses. Just saying this to let you know my “everything used to be better”-mentality)
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Because, other than the reasons I explained previously, there is one more reason: Jolla was a pioneer in user interface through gestures over a decade ago.
A lot has changed in a decade and Jolla is no longer a pioneer in an unexplored area.
The world has evolved and some usage patterns (like swipe up to minimize the current app) have become so ingrained in multiple operating systems that it is counterproductive to ignore especially if Jolla wants to attract people used to gestures on other operatimg systems.
The other reasons you explained were „I am used to it”.
„Multiple operating systems” are Android and iOS, which is the point behind the „other reasons”. Makes a total of one reason.
You are saying the same over and over again.
A decade ago this might have been considered a good reasoning. But times have changed and you should move on. I told you that before and btw everybody else has. People are used to it.
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Why do you want to minimize an app in SFOS? To look at an empty screen? Either you want to open a new app (swipe from bottom and use the app launcher) or you want to check the notifications (swipe from the side).
In Android it works differently because you can place the icons on the home screen, but I wouldn’t say that Android is a good reference in terms of usability. Most of the times you need multiple gestures to do what SFOS does with one single gesture (e.g. close an app).
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Who are you? I don’t remember discussing any of this with you.
But I can spare a small explanation for you to help you out: you are conflating the qualitative aspect of not following the de facto rules with the temporal aspect of being too late to try something radically different.
Those are two different things even if you personally find it difficult to understand.
Why do I want to minimize an app?..
Now, that is some question alright.
You should ask Jolla.
After all, Jolla’s sailfish os user interface has a gesture to minimize an app.
Maybe Jolla can help you with that mistery.