Well, boys and girls to learn. Some years ago i dropped in a meeting, where telecompany was choosing soft for/in DMZ area. They discussed about Nginx. I said it’s technically good BUT… Some guys said bit angry “WHAT BUT!!!” . Meetingtime unfortunately ended. God was pleasent as in next night got email where ex ngingx boss announced to good customers. Our Moscow office was " attacked" by FSB, and ex owners ( two russian millionare fellows) were arrested. Well, those two guys had sold Ngingx some months before and returned “home” for holidays. BIG mistake, Putins dream was crushed and those guilty shall know. 20-50 million company/nations/ organisations no more at his fingers. So, to use Aurora or what name happens to be, good luck. Well, forwarded mail to angry boys…just to learn
And what about blini recipes?
Only pancakes in here!)))
Highly appreciated people with sense of humor in the forum.
Well ok im takin my words about AYYA T1 back. OMP did update 5.1.3 with chromium and lotta fixes. And Komrunet ready to provide update for users in their store office while F+ delay update for their R570E.
@hqqddy, thank you for the interesting article about the release of AuroraOS 5.1.3 (Google translation). But the AYYA T1 is not mentioned in the article, in contrast to the F+ R570E. What made you assessing the AYYA T1 more positively than you did before? Or is it Komrunet on which you changed your opinion?
P.S.: The list from the article of mobile phones for which AuroraOS 5.1.3 is available as over-the-air download:
- Aquarius NS M11
- Aquarius NS M12
- Aquarius NS M12v2
- Aquarius NS M21
- Byterg MVK-T2101
- Kvadra KVADRA_T (Quadra Quadra_T)
- Aquarius NS208RH
- Aquarius NS220RE
- Mashtab TrustPhone T1 (¿ AYYA T1 ?)
- Fplus R570Е
- Fplus T1100
- Fplus T800
Or did you mean to point out that the AuroraOS updates are not deployed as an “over-the-air (OTA) download” for the AYYA T1, but pushed via MDM / ADM (by komrunet?)? You mentioned something like this before, but it originally read as if that statement was addressing the F+ phones, not AYYA!?!
Well yep AYYA is missed in this article. This info one dude on 4pda forum says and its taken from official vk or telegram aurora chats. I prefer not to use this resources coz they do not left space for any reasonal critics related aurora/omp. What about ota so ya right there is no ota but mdm/adm via manufacturer/seller channels. So AYYA is updated by Komrunet, R570E updated by Vsesmart etc.
Oh btw i recieve few email from omp related aurora issues. I create it in last year and i even cant remember what about i wrote. But its surprised me that they fix it even if it takes much time but not just close it.
Oh I got it. I suppose AYYA T1 is Mashtab TrustPhone T1 phone. Full change log is here. R570E start get update since 12.02.2025 via ADM
I am also positively surprised, that OMP provides such a detailed and comprehensive change-log. AuroraOS 5.1.3 seems to be a “consolidating” release for the supported devices, i.e. deploying the same OS release for all of them.
Side note: And how I would love to see Jolla clearly differentiate between “release numbers” and “version numbers” as OMP does in the header of table 2; this would easily avoid the regular misunderstanding that SailfishOS’ “stop releases” are “stop versions” (which is not the case).
As an native Ukrainian living in Germany for 32 years i think i can also give some input to this topic.
Russian is my Mother-language so i can read and understand many topics, which are hidden to the majority of SailfishOS Users here, because, they don’t understand Russian and reading it with translator is not always the best.
Apart from this i have a lot of contacts to Ukraine and Russia, so i can say i have a little bit more Information what is going on there (from the technical and political perspective)
AuroraOS was the Attempt to create an mobile Operating System which Russia could fully control and be sure, that no western spyware were inside.
of course building an OS from Scratch would take years, so they found a good solution:
They licenced SailfishOS, got the Source code and could modify it for their needs.
What was the Outcome:
Well, they created SailfishOS RUS which they later renamed to AuroraOS.
It runs on about 50 different devices in the lower price segment.
They are used as terminals for Russian Post, Russian Railway (RZHD), Electric supplier companies etc.
There are many devices in the wild there, but they are used only in State-owned companies, or organisations which rely highly on the Russian State.
Outside of this - no other person use it.
Even the most patriotic Russian user would prefer Android/iPhone with American OS instead of the AuroraOS Smartphone.
Because the specs are very low, because there is no Android Support and because most Russians thinks - anything is made in Russia is Shit.
Well when we look to the Car-Market in Russia - we could agree: Russian cars are bad. They are expensive and of bad quality. So rich Russians prefer German cars and not-so-rich buy Chinese.
From the Information, which i have from Russia - nobody would use AuroraOS there, when he/she is not forced to do so.
And for the other countries, here i must absolutely agree with @Bohdan - you would better take something from a random country, but not from a country which bomb your city and kill your friends/neighbours/relatives.
After the full scale invasion on Ukraine anything what has something to do with Russia became toxic.
Personally i wouldn’t buy or use anything, where i know that the income is beeng used to postpone this barbaric war. But this is maybe OT and a case for another topic.
Thanks for clarifying the topic, @explit
In this thread it’s me who is considered toxic, so I don’t comment here often.
I read some reviews in russian sources too, just to be sure there’s no connection between Sailfish OS and its fork, as this is important for me.
If we separate Aurora and its origins, from purely technical point of view, the lack of android app support is the biggest problem, as without that such project will never fly. It could be my subjective assessment, but I always thought Windows Phone and BlackBerry OS 10 failed because they didn’t support android apps from day 1, while for Sailfish OS it may be one of the factors why it still exists. Big corps failed here not because of technical difficulties of implementing something, rather the delay was caused by their arrogance and inability to think of optimal market strategies. And that were companies – a government is unlikely to create a great mobile OS, no government at this point.
That is why from my point of view there’s no point to discuss something that is on purpose limited and has a very limited application for a single country only.
There is android vm or sometin like that named Avroid existed but available for legal entity / corporate users only. So no one see it yet.
Based on documentation, yes, it seems that it’s a VM with a list of preinstalled apps that it can run. Pathetic
i will not react on the most of your comments, because its imho useless in this case, exept of one:
while
4pda and xdadevelops are good sources, which i always read i need to kindly ask you to accept, that this people who, like you said “using AuroraOS” are couple of Systemadministrators who often need to setup such devices for the companies they work for.
While Desktop Linux has a great User Base in Russia, the mobile linux has unfortunately no big acceptance/popularity in Russia.
So you might think there are more AuroraOS user than Ubuntu Touch or PinePhone users.
People in Russia buy low-cost Android-Devices or high-end iphones.
there is no market for privacy-oriented products.
People in Russia knows, that KGB/FSB knows everything- so its useless to hide something.
I know many good Russian developers who created a lot of good stuff for the SailfishOS community, but i need to say they are SailfishOS Users, not AuroraOS Users.
And for the rest of your comments: i wish you, that you never has to bury your relatives which died because of a random bomb (which maybe! targeted an military object but blowed the civilian house because of the russian precision)
Please, just stop. People are the same everywhere. And “I got nothing to hide” is a universal maxim.
Can you guys please start your own thread about your feelings and anecdotes about russia/ukraine politics etc and leave this thread about a software product that is very closely tied to sfos? It only brings partisan flagging, while this thread was mostly technical/informational
I can agree with you that we need be on topic, but this thread can not be viewed only from the technological perspective, without political view at all.
It was in first case political decision, why Jolla cut the ties with Russia/Rostelekom and transformed to Jollyboys Oy.
Then start a political view topic where your speculation, hearsay and political views will be on topic pls
I don’t want to discuss with you in long sentences, what i want to say was: It is not always possible to separate. Or how you think we should process here:
The topic is about Russian SailfishOS Derivat AuroraOS. Lets discuss only technical aspects and forget anything what has to do with Russia?
Yes, if you want to give us your feelings and hearsay from living in x country for Y years about what you heard about country z… You’re just inviting the flag brigade, not informational, not factual, just invites more baseless partisan bs, just start your own thread ‘How expat from x country feels about sfos offshoot being developed by Y country’ and you can all discuss politics there