Switching to Sailfish - general information

Hello everyone,
I’ve just ordered the Jolla phone in batch #3. The checkout process was straightforward, including the accessories and pre-order discount, and I’m very happy with it.

As an iPhone user who wants to support a courageous company and become more independent of big monopolies, I’m looking forward to receiving the new phone.

I know it will require some effort to learn its features and change my normal mobile usage, but I find this challenge interesting and worthwhile.
In previous years, I have already started using as much ‘alternative’, open-source software as possible.

Having read in the forum that many of the applications I’m interested in (e.g. Mastodon, Matrix and web browsers) are already available as ‘natives’ for SFOS, I’m looking forward to receiving the new phone.

I found some information about other applications, but I’m not sure of their current status. Could they be available as ‘native’ apps, or is there a ‘native’ app compatible with their file format? Is it necessary to use the Android store?

I’m particularly interested in:

  • Nextcloud
  • KeePassXC
  • Joplin
  • Mullvad VPN
  • Tutanota

Perhaps it’s too early for such questions, but I wanted to start collecting information and preparing for the ‘big change’, as well as interacting with the forum.

Finally, I should mention my skill level: I use Linux for everyday operations at work and at home, but I’m not a developer and I can’t perform complex interventions on the system yet.

Thank you very much in advance!

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Nextcloud is kind of integrated in the os (more or less)

There is ownKeepass which i thik supports keepass stsuff

No idea what joplin is but i don’t think i’ve seen anything related to it.

Mullvas is Wireguard based and SFOS supports Wireguard.

Tutanota probably not.

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Welcome to these forums and I hope you enjoy your new phone when it arrives!

To avoid repetition there’s a great post which will help you find your way.

While it doesn’t have a specific link to iPhone apps, there is one there that will point you towards Sailfish equivalents for Android apps

There’s a link to the Community News tag for this forum, but I would suggest going further and just subscribe to the Announcements category:

One way to keep abreast of Jolla’s posts - including Phone updates and OS releases is to go to Announcements - Sailfish OS Forum and click on the bell in the top right. I have the ‘Watching First Post’ selected, and every time they make a new thread i get emailed an update.

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Hi Gici,

I’m on the same boat, be it that I ordered my Jolla phone in batch Sep-II-2026. Leaving the Apple ecosystem behind is indeed quite a challenge, but an exiting and rewarding journey as well. I’m aiming for European and/or open-source software where possible, like Ente Photo’s, LibreOffice, Vivaldi browser and Proton Mail/Pass. When I heard about the Jolla phone, it was a logical move for me to support this company buying one myself. I’m looking forward hearing about the experiences with the Jolla phone.
Wishing you good luck in your search!

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I’ve been pretty happy with the Nextcloud Notes app on the phone and vimwiki on the computer, but it’s an admittedly simple setup compared to a dedicated note-taking ecosystem.

Tutanota is a rather closed ecosystem. I get the appeal, although I doubt the true benefit. You’ll want to use the upstream apps for that, I think.


I’m not sure whether it helps, but I’m writing down how I have been using Sailfish OS for the past ten years on my blog: My Sailfish OS Journey & My Sailfish OS Journey: Apps for my daily needs.

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Despite me being around from the jolla 1 days, sure this is an interesting read, thank you for posting that

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Nice blogs! As a new user, it’s a useful read!

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That’s the intention! More public, Google-able information. I’ve always felt it was a bit lacking in that regard :slight_smile:

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I kind of feel there will be quite a few that haven’t done their research -as usual- and we are going to get many people complaining why this or that doesn’t work. :roll_eyes:

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The more reason that we need many, up-to-date, and diverse resources to point newcomers to!

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It’s fine. As long as the money keeps flowing and j2 sells, maybe it will help Jolla prioritize better what their customers want.

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Hmmmmm. Not exactly. Selling something that doesn’t satisfy your customers wont get you long. Buyers should know what they are getting and its up to them to decide.

Of course there will be a group that just bought it and complain but it s their fault more or less.

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Thank you all very much for your friendly replies and for suggesting links! I’ve started reading them already and I find them very useful and informative. I now have a better idea of what to expect from the J2 and how to approach switching to it. For now, I’m not at all disappointed.

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Yea,

The start is a hassle, but when all is configured and apps you want are installed it runs really well and you can mostly just use it and not worry of anything.

There are a lot of great threads here of almoat anything that puzzles you and people have made a lot of great guides and software to get things running smoothly. That’s the best part about these hobbyist centered products.

Also, I like the aspect that I have to be mindful of apps I use, are they usefull and am i centralizing them too much. My VPN, email, password manager and cloud storage are all Proton. Of course Proton is a lot better than big tech, but still. Bigger the company becomes more the risk of them going bad. Having to move everything again is not fun.

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Yes. I agree. Becoming user friendly is not a bad word.

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As already said, there is ownKeepass for that. I use it, it works perfectly fine and can read the keepass files from my desktop KeePassXC.

I also use Mullvad. It works, but the app won’t work. You need to “manually” configure OpenVPN / Wireguard in the system. But this is rather simple, you just need to download a file from Mullvad. Also, there is a guide for WireGuard here

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They advertise an open source app, so would be possible to create a “bridge” application that could provide an interface to Tuta as standard IMAP and SMTP. I think Proton has one such application.

I wonder if it could be worthwhile for Jolla to create some dev bounty website. If many people wanted to use Tuta, for example, they could put together enough money to pay some developer to write that app.

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I use the Tuta app through AndroidAppSupport and it works great. I also have my Nextcloud account linked to my device. There is a native app to access your Nextcloud files, but you can also use the Android app.

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Have you tried using Tuta through their web access with a Sailfish browser?

Interested to know as it was one of my possibilities.

Thanks

I haven’t a Jolla phone yet (and I’m looking forward to July / August…)
I’m actually using Tuta through web browser in Linux, and it works very well, I don’t miss the app: I’m therefore also curious to see, if with the Sailfish browser it can work fine too.