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Strange.
My setup is bog standard with no tweaks of any kind as far as I remember.
Hostfile blocks can make plenty of difference. Try turning it off and see if it alters behaviour
That didn’t make any difference. That site doesn’t seem to have very many ads.
I have changed Browser to ANGELFISH …all OK!!!
I charged up my old XperiaX with 4.4.x on it, and it loaded OK, but much slower, obviously. This is pretty strange.
Update: It worked yesterday on the 10iii after the headline changed. Hmmm, very strange
So, same benchmark as before:
- Xperia 10II, build 4.5.0.19
- Using the 4G to access internet (in case that has some influence).
- Browser has 0 active tabs.
- Browser is still default config, no change in the about:config.
- Browsing: Visual Studio Code March 2023
First test was following @Seven.of.nine tip on another thread:
The scenario:
- I opened DeadBeef Silica
- Played one song for a few seconds
- Opened the browser
Spoiler alert, did not work. The browser crashed with the music app with it:
Mai 15 20:19:37 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'deadbeef-main' (27362), adj 100,
to free 69368kB on behalf of 'VideoDecMsgThre' (28661) because
cache 560400kB is below limit 560800kB for oom_score_adj 58
Free memory is 309744kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 16016kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 28216kB
Total file cache is 605596kB
Slab Reclaimable is 116408kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 452048kB
Total Slab is 568456kB
GFP mask is 0x14280c2
Indirect Reclaimable is 376kB
Free Swap 316520kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:-1788
Mai 15 20:19:37 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'id.ext.services' (25665), adj 100,
to free 55600kB on behalf of 'HwBinder:3134_4' (6053) because
cache 559432kB is below limit 560800kB for oom_score_adj 58
Free memory is 311768kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 23744kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 37372kB
Total file cache is 605008kB
Slab Reclaimable is 116208kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 452048kB
Total Slab is 568256kB
GFP mask is 0x14280c2
Indirect Reclaimable is 376kB
Free Swap 316444kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:-1263
Mai 15 20:19:37 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: oom_reaper: reaped process 27362 (deadbeef-main), now anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:268kB, shmem-rss:272kB
Mai 15 20:19:37 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: oom_reaper: reaped process 25665 (id.ext.services), now anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:112kB
Mai 15 20:19:38 Xperia10II-DualSIM booster-generic[5952]: *** signal=17 pid=5952
Mai 15 20:19:38 Xperia10II-DualSIM /usr/libexec/mapplauncherd/booster-generic[5952]: warning: boosted process (pid=27362) signal(Killed)
Mai 15 20:19:38 Xperia10II-DualSIM /usr/libexec/mapplauncherd/booster-generic[5952]: warning: Daemon: sending exit(1) to invoker(28411)
Mai 15 20:19:38 Xperia10II-DualSIM invoker[28411]: warning: application (pid=-1) exit(1) signal(0)
Mai 15 20:19:38 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: BUG: Bad rss-counter state mm:ffffffc0c061b800 idx:4 val:3054
Mai 15 20:19:38 Xperia10II-DualSIM lipstick[6159]: [D] onDestruction:268 - coverActionIndicators destroyed deadbeef-silica.desktop
Mai 15 20:19:38 Xperia10II-DualSIM dbus-daemon[1725]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.61" (uid=100000 pid=6159 comm="/usr/bin/lipstick -plugin evdevtouch -plugin evdev" label="u:r:kernel:s0") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.3" (uid=0 pid=2668 comm="/usr/sbin/ohmd --no-daemon --mlock=none" label="u:r:kernel:s0")
Mai 15 20:19:38 Xperia10II-DualSIM dbus-daemon[1725]: dbus-daemon[1725]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.61" (uid=100000 pid=6159 comm="/usr/bin/lipstick -plugin evdevtouch -plugin evdev" label="u:r:kernel:s0") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.3" (uid=0 pid=2668 comm="/usr/sbin/ohmd --no-daemon --mlock=none" label="u:r:kernel:s0")
Mai 15 20:19:38 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'sailfish-browse' (25220), adj 0,
to free 377880kB on behalf of 'HwBinder:3134_4' (6053) because
cache 468620kB is below limit 468640kB for oom_score_adj 0
Free memory is 315268kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 32312kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 54304kB
Total file cache is 512572kB
Slab Reclaimable is 111104kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 453372kB
Total Slab is 564476kB
GFP mask is 0x14280c2
Indirect Reclaimable is 1358kB
Free Swap 311852kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:492
Mai 15 20:19:38 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: binder: 25220:28691 ioctl c0306201 70ed3e94a0 returned -14
Mai 15 20:19:38 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: oom_reaper: reaped process 25220 (sailfish-browse), now anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:77288kB, shmem-rss:340kB
And i also tried this, first one option at the time, then all three together, all options lead to browser crash:
apz.autoscroll.enabled: off
Mai 15 20:33:03 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'maliit-server' (23533), adj 0,
to free 84468kB on behalf of 'kworker/u16:1' (30350) because
cache 463536kB is below limit 468640kB for oom_score_adj 0
Free memory is 291880kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 13200kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 25076kB
Total file cache is 512872kB
Slab Reclaimable is 113688kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 452912kB
Total Slab is 566600kB
GFP mask is 0x14142c0
Indirect Reclaimable is 2401kB
Free Swap 295540kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:-1515
Mai 15 20:33:03 Xperia10II-DualSIM gecko-camera[30368]: droid-codec configureOutput:766 -- Configuring converter for stride:1920 slice-height: 1080 top: 0 left:0 width: 1920 height: 1080 format: 2141391876
Mai 15 20:33:03 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'sailfish-browse' (30368), adj 0,
to free 431896kB on behalf of 'VideoDecMsgThre' (895) because
cache 458196kB is below limit 468640kB for oom_score_adj 0
Free memory is 327644kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 17944kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 68248kB
Total file cache is 508020kB
Slab Reclaimable is 113688kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 453708kB
Total Slab is 567396kB
GFP mask is 0x14280c2
Indirect Reclaimable is 2401kB
Free Swap 295372kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:7464
Mai 15 20:33:03 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: oom_reaper: reaped process 23533 (maliit-server), now anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:2472kB, shmem-rss:128kB
apz.disable_for_scroll_linked_effects: on
Mai 15 20:35:03 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'maliit-server' (32343), adj 0,
to free 87248kB on behalf of 'VideoDecMsgThre' (2090) because
cache 465828kB is below limit 468640kB for oom_score_adj 0
Free memory is 303036kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 264kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 16932kB
Total file cache is 516488kB
Slab Reclaimable is 108232kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 452516kB
Total Slab is 560748kB
GFP mask is 0x14280c2
Indirect Reclaimable is 2410kB
Free Swap 302764kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:-534
Mai 15 20:35:03 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'sailfish-browse' (1025), adj 0,
to free 454168kB on behalf of 'HwBinder:2736_3' (1436) because
cache 465436kB is below limit 468640kB for oom_score_adj 0
Free memory is 323988kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 10220kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 50356kB
Total file cache is 516292kB
Slab Reclaimable is 108192kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 452516kB
Total Slab is 560708kB
GFP mask is 0x14280c2
Indirect Reclaimable is 2410kB
Free Swap 302720kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:4714
browser.cache.disk.max_entry_size: 4096 → 1024
Mai 15 20:38:26 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'maliit-server' (952), adj 0,
to free 83604kB on behalf of 'Compositor' (2959) because
cache 466248kB is below limit 468640kB for oom_score_adj 0
Free memory is 269760kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 4844kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 20608kB
Total file cache is 517916kB
Slab Reclaimable is 111888kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 453220kB
Total Slab is 565108kB
GFP mask is 0x14000c2
Indirect Reclaimable is 409kB
Free Swap 272264kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:-729
Mai 15 20:38:26 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'sailfish-browse' (2363), adj 0,
to free 433472kB on behalf of 'VideoDecMsgThre' (3703) because
cache 463056kB is below limit 468640kB for oom_score_adj 0
Free memory is 277684kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 4720kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 30768kB
Total file cache is 514708kB
Slab Reclaimable is 111884kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 453096kB
Total Slab is 564980kB
GFP mask is 0x14280c2
Indirect Reclaimable is 409kB
Free Swap 272180kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:1262
Mai 15 20:38:26 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'invoker' (2912), adj 0,
to free 2528kB on behalf of 'HwBinder:3134_4' (6053) because
cache 460904kB is below limit 468640kB for oom_score_adj 0
Free memory is 282780kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 5392kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 34480kB
Total file cache is 512748kB
Slab Reclaimable is 111884kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 452896kB
Total Slab is 564780kB
GFP mask is 0x14280c2
Indirect Reclaimable is 409kB
Free Swap 272176kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:2549
Memory performance during the last test :
Memory at 2023-05-15T20:38:22.701
Memory details: 3.5 GiB total, 25.7 MiB free, 110.7 MiB buffers, 940.6 MiB cached (including 19.6 MiB shmem (tmpfs)), 0 B swap cache
Kernel: 565.4 MiB SLAB (123.0 MiB reclaimable),
~ 1.2 GiB other kernel memory? It means: total - anonymous process - slab - free - buffers - cached - swap cache
Swap: 1024.0 MiB total, 295.0 MiB free (29%)
Available: 1.1 GiB (33%) estimated by kernel
1.2 GiB (33%) computed. It means: free + buffers + (cached - Shmem) + swap cache + slab reclaimable
Processes memory (smaps Pss):
PID process size (% of total) [oom_adj, oom_score, oom_score_adj]
2363 booster [browse 362.9 MiB (10%)
2913 booster [browse 18.9 MiB (1%) [-1000, 0, 0]
22299 memory-record 16.4 MiB (0%) [-1000, 0, 0]
7451 tracker-miner-f 11.2 MiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
3571 tracker-extract 8.1 MiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
All three together
Mai 15 20:42:35 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'id.ext.services' (3744), adj 100,
to free 41588kB on behalf of 'HwBinder:2736_1' (2800) because
cache 558380kB is below limit 560800kB for oom_score_adj 58
Free memory is 277836kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 16644kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 33824kB
Total file cache is 608892kB
Slab Reclaimable is 121976kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 453432kB
Total Slab is 575408kB
GFP mask is 0x14280c2
Indirect Reclaimable is 2503kB
Free Swap 278120kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:-711
Mai 15 20:42:36 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: oom_reaper: reaped process 3744 (id.ext.services), now anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:112kB
Mai 15 20:42:36 Xperia10II-DualSIM kernel: lowmemorykiller: Killing 'sailfish-browse' (4129), adj 0,
to free 430012kB on behalf of 'HwBinder:3134_1' (10897) because
cache 465764kB is below limit 468640kB for oom_score_adj 0
Free memory is 268820kB above reserved.
Free CMA is 17216kB
Total reserve is 18680kB
Total free pages is 29908kB
Total file cache is 517040kB
Slab Reclaimable is 116540kB
Slab UnReclaimable is 454348kB
Total Slab is 570888kB
GFP mask is 0x14280c2
Indirect Reclaimable is 1180kB
Free Swap 272884kB
queue len is 1 of max 1 reason:0x2 margin:-1311
Memory performance during this test
Memory at 2023-05-15T20:42:34.706
Memory details: 3.5 GiB total, 23.3 MiB free, 86.6 MiB buffers, 645.8 MiB cached (including 10.2 MiB shmem (tmpfs)), 0 B swap cache
Kernel: 563.5 MiB SLAB (120.4 MiB reclaimable),
~ 1.6 GiB other kernel memory? It means: total - anonymous process - slab - free - buffers - cached - swap cache
Swap: 1024.0 MiB total, 280.0 MiB free (27%)
Available: 850.5 MiB (24%) estimated by kernel
866.0 MiB (24%) computed. It means: free + buffers + (cached - Shmem) + swap cache + slab reclaimable
Processes memory (smaps Pss):
PID process size (% of total) [oom_adj, oom_score, oom_score_adj]
4129 booster-browser 405.2 MiB (11%)
4981 booster-browser 19.8 MiB (1%) [-1000, 0, 0]
22299 memory-record 16.6 MiB (0%) [-1000, 0, 0]
7451 tracker-miner-f 10.1 MiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
5263 tracker-extract 8.7 MiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
6035 xt9-server 6.4 MiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
6293 pulseaudio 5.5 MiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
5902 systemd 2.4 MiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
6408 dconf-service 1.8 MiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
5957 dbus-daemon 1.7 MiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
6041 ngfd 1.4 MiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
6687 0 858.0 KiB (0%) [-1000, 0, 0]
19302 alienkeyboardse 824.0 KiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
19278 alienaudioservi 684.0 KiB (0%) [-750, 0, 0]
I hope this can enlighten some of you on ideas/tools to try next, either to measure the memory or the browser or hacking into understanding it.
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Yesterday I had a hanging browser without full crash but an error message regarding booster-browser - wait or abort. I did nothing to not confuse the phone and only waited, and luckily the browser continued after abt. 5 seconds.
most crashes or at least massive delays occur on this SFOS Forum site, fewer on news.orf.at , surprisingly Youtube never crashes.
Strange, why is booster-browser listed twice with different PIDs?
that’s above my knowledge
My too, but looks strange. Right now I had my first crash on sending a SMS. So maybe the underlying problem is really not the browser itself but more the process management in base system. There I can also say nothing to it, imy knowledge is much too less.
Maybe this is a kind of a bad joke/trolling:
Strange, why is booster-browser listed twice with different PIDs?
To boost it twice as fast! 
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Booster browser is a systemd template service (booster-browser@.service).
There are at least two services derived from that template, one for the browser and one for the email apps. (In theory any app which uses WebView could have its own booster this way.)
Each has their own booster process, the same binary with different configurations applied.
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Profiling
Has anyone in this thread poked around about:memory screen? Anything noteworthy?
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Yes, now. Because of your information that this exists.
I clicked ‘Free memory - Minimize…’, then enabled ‘Show memory reports - verbose’ and clicked ‘Measure’.
A strange output is this (maybe of interest):
Warning: the ‘heap-allocated’ memory reporter does not work for this platform and/or configuration. This means that ‘heap-unclassified’ is not shown and the ‘explicit’ tree shows less memory than it should.
I honor this efforts to get a more stable browsing-experience but i fear the solutions will only last until next update of the used Browser-Engine in native SailfishOS-Browser.
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So we’ll have plenty of time! 
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What make you sure, did there exist some kind of a Roadmap for the Updates?
Roadmap? Nothing is sure. Ask Jolla for roadmap and tell me!
edit: I extrapolated the Browser update intervals from 2019 until today.
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They are waiting for something to be stable enough to release a new update, I don’t remember what but I’ve heard from Jolla something
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