Sailfish OS by grokipedia

It is unfortunately the spirit of the times nowadays to prioritize prescribed attitudes over personal convictions.

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Alan Partridge shrugging.

As is science. I think the whole problem burns down to fact based views being biased to the left.

Irrational paranoid conspiracy theories on the other hand…

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With the biggest conspiracy of them all being that our political system is Democracy, and that our politicians care for our well-being.
And that is the hard part. Technology seems to be utilized in such a manner that actually binds this whole sh1t together.

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yeah, that’s a lovely thought. evaporates on contact with reality tho! :rofl:


separately - and more generally - it is not obligatory to like musk products (or the person), but can we please all dial down the whining about it. it’s tiresome.

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Thanks for pointing that out. There are so many examples on what extremists claim as “leftist”, which is just scientifically proven to be the correct thing to do.

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That is unfortunately what the thing called Political Correctness normalized, and now the fascists skillfully expoit.

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I hate this conversation, because I had it 20 years ago and nothing changed. We see your six, but we point out that it’s actually a nine. We provide sources, we discuss the whole thing, but still you insist it’s a six. And even worse, us pointing out it’s a nine is taken personally. An attack on your lifestyle and you get aggressive and make this into a culture clash, not realizing that adapting just the slightest bit will increase your quality of life.

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Well, it seen you gained no noticeable knowledge on how to get along with ppl, who see your nine as six. 20years later.
Then you get what U deserve.

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I had a good laugh this morning, you did exactly what @x2s wrote.

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Bang on here. Well said chap.

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I did nothing else but to point out the inconvenient fact - you can not impose your “betterness”, when the word “respect” is a foreign one in your vocabulary.

P.S. Been living in western Europe long enough to notice that ppl there have difficulty hearing the “NO” word. Well, then you get the else.

I think this is a senseless and endless discussion. Right wing people will probably love grokipedia leftwing people will avoid it. I will avoid it for two reasons. The first one I have already pointed out. The second one is, that AI is simply not able to know what is right or wrong. I had so bad answers on so many things I’ve asked chatbots, that I have completely given up on them.

Are they comfortable - yes. Are they reliable - No, no and again no.
And this has nothing to do with my political orientation. It’s simply fact. So why should I use any officially AI based (unofficially a bad clone of Wikipedia) Encyclopedia. This makes no sense. No matter if I’m right or left winged.

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It doesn’t mean that everything outside of Grokipedia is created without AI. Even in an online article by Der Spiegel, a reader found traces of AI-generated text — apparently the result of a simple copy-and-paste mistake.
So why are people trying to stir up negativity against Grokipedia when AI is already part of almost everything these days?
The most important skill is still our own judgment — the ability to look at information critically and make up our own minds. In the past, we used to call that plain “common sense.”

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AI is everywhere nowadays. That doesn’t mean I have to embrace it with both arms, when I know it produces such a huge amount of rubbish.
The question is why should I use a bad copy, if there is a good original. Just to read, what I like to read? This completely counterparts this statement!

On this way every common sense gets lost. You can see that in the US where a notorious liar is dividing a whole country. Because a good part of the population lost any critical thought.

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Just out of curiosity, how is biased-to left necessarily not neutral? What is the logic here? Isn’t neutral about reflecting the nature correctly rather than reflecting about the average opinion of human? I presume Giordano Bruno is quite biased and un-neutral to dare to support heliocentrism.

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this is becoming a stupid conversation:

arguing the right and wrong of right and left is a fruitless exercise on [any] other basis than of a one-on-one exchange of [opinions]. declarations of political ‘fact’ in a group setting is the labour of fools.

i reiterate:

it is not obligatory to like musk products (or the person), but can we please all dial down the whining about it. it’s tiresome. and serves no purpose to the rest of us wishing to discuss SailfishOS.

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You do realize this is a forum, not a chat room, and you can simply not click and open one post, right? It is very simple to not read and open a post, try it.

Discourse even have a hide button for a discussion/tag/user.

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you miss my point:

i do not object to someone pointing out that there is a grokopedia article on SFOS, and that it seems to be reasonably accurate.

i do object to the ceaseless whining about even referencing such a ‘hideous excretion’ on the basis that the owner’s is a baddy-man and his politics are “wrong”.

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By definition, when a media/book/encyclopedia is left or right biased tends to loose a certain neutrality, since certain points of view may (and will) become influenced by the very bias.

An example for left/right bias can be easily seen in e.g. migration debates, pregnancy interruption, economic politics, historical events analysis and so on. Maintaining a neutrality there is very difficult, if not impossible, when there is a bias.