did you try microtube (mcrotube openrepos) ?
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I have not accused you specifically, I just wanted to point out that this has happened a few times over the last couple of weeks.
And sorry for you being on the receiving end of my little rant. It is just that we have discussed most of this before, and it gets draining after a while, so I needed to vent.
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I mean, they actively removed the option to set a start page (it was there in earlier versions of Firefox for Android) and instead use some ânative pageâ bullshit, because apparently starting the âweb browserâ component of a web browser takes too long.
Nota bene: Firefox, Fennec, or other Gecko-based browsers are my default everywhere.
https://web.localsend.org/ works even on the Sailfish browser.
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Well, that I know about & I kinda said it in the main post.
Best we can have is 6.1â, but Jolla went with 6.36 for some reason - Google too in Pixel 9A, but Sony did 6.1 in Xperia 10 VII, so they have an OEM for display.
Not a big difference, but I would still prefer 6.1 over 6.36.
Anyway.
Are you sure about that? I doesnât seem to work
Iâm trying to share files in this exact moment of screenshot from Android phone
Yes.
This is on a Jolla C2, branded as âLinux, Firefoxâ on the other side.
Can the devices otherwise see each other on the network, or is the network set up to hide devices from each other?
Yes, I am sure. I moved files yesterday between two SFOS phones using the web client and between Android and SFOS using the native clients.
For Android you probably need a native client because the browser cannot access many files, just audio and video. When using a native client you need to look at the versions youâre using, since as you can see in your screenshot the web client needs v1.18+.
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Regardless of Android needing a native client - everything is fine now, it was a version mismatch. Somehow the Flatpak package on Linux and F-Droid build on Android are version 1.17âŚ
So this is the problem in the end, devices see each other with web client.
Thanks for help 
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I just casually entered the forum after recent new Jolla Phone promos to check out whatâs happening and this
Is kinda amusing. Anything that doesnât agree with âsailfish is awesome, only praise is acceptedâ is either ânewbeeâ or âAIââŚ
Also - I read the original post and I wholeheardeatly agree⌠I tried using saifish over the years after getting first Jolla Phone but itâs just:
(yes, this account is new but it looks like https://together.jolla.com/ was nuked at one point and I didnât notice because I got disilusioned with sailfish/jolla 
)
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Seems strange to agree with all of it. Significant parts were misunderstandings, an the author even noted coming to that conclusion.
Having been daily-driving SFOS since The First One, i just cannot agree things are done differently for no reason. Things being done whatever way in some other ecosystem does not magically make them the âmost sensibleâ. Be concrete and constructive and it will be fine. Be fluffy and feeling-oriented and, yes, we do have an issue.
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No, it is just that it is not helpful to state things that basically amount to âit would be better if Jolla invested 20 billion per year into Sailfishâ without thinking about where that money would come from.
Do you think they are not aware of the limitations of the OS?
Weâve heard it dozens of times.
Go and develop something or whine somewhere else.
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Sailfish has been around for a long time. It has survived hard times as well as better times. Why do they always want to tear everything down in the name of âmaking it like all the other OSesâ instead of making thoughtful improvements to what we already have?
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Yes, indeed. I really cannot fathom that. I wonder how many of these people have even switched between Windows and Mac or Android and iPhone.
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Yes, Iâll do that sir! the toxicity of the âcommunityâ is enought to convince me 
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I am normally not that short-fused, but I am convinced that people who only come here to complain are not much of a loss anyway.
If I am mistaken and you are genuinely interested in Sailfish, then please accept my apologies, but it certainly did not come across that way to me.
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In every community there are some grumpy or even worse persons. I suggest that you stick around a bit. Youâll learn quickly who to read and who to avoid. Just the same as in the real life.
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Iâll keep lurking 
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Based on this thread and a few others around, here is an informal comparison.
| OS | Distinctive points | Drawbacks |
|---|---|---|
| GrapheneOS | usable for day to day, very secure | limited hardware choice, not a linux distro, depends on google (hardware and software) |
| Purism | linux distro, made in USA electronics | limited hardware choice, very slow hardware, extremely overpriced |
| PostmarketOS | linux distro, numerous community ports | no commercial support, not usable as daily |
| Jolla SFOS | linux distro, long-term official support of several devices, community ports, usable daily, assembled in EU (or TR) | relatively infrequent updates, some non-FOSS bits |
SFOS has drawbacks, but itâs the only one thatâs a a linux distro on a phone that actually works as daily.
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