Please add function to Settings/System/System/Battery:
Automatic Energy saving mode after x minutes of inactivity. (with a possibility to enter the wished number of minutes or choosing of some predefinited values).
It’s contrapoductive that a full charged phone, that lies on some place while nobody does anything with it, does not enter the power saving mode but senseless discharges the battery.
Presently there’s only possible to automatically activate the power saving mode depending on the accu charge level (20%, 15%, 10%, 5%, off), or set manually until next time charger is connected. Automatic activating after some minutes of user inactivity, detected by absence of user interaction, would increase battery life easily.
@Seven.of.nine You could try Situations, also if i didn’t find the UI really user friendly, there you can apply rules. To f. ex. turn of mobile network if WIFI is connected and so on. But i think its not maintained anymore, a pity cause if it would be prettied up a bit and made it more simple to add rules, it could be really helpful
There is even more potential to save energy. My favorite features with BBOS 7 were:
to switch the phone completely off and on at certain times
to automatically switch flight mode on and off at certain times
Very useful for phones that are used exclusively for business purposes. Quiet after work until the next start of work. The on-off function was integrated into the operating system. Additional apps only work when the device is switched on.
Auto ON / OFF in particular reduced consumption to 0 - 0.2% overnight and ensured peace and quiet. A set alarm worked anyway. Such useful functions are completely absent from current phones.
I am very familiar with situations from my old Nokia, but it’s not the same. Auto ON / OFF with BBOS means that the device is really completely off. This can only be achieved by combining hardware and software. I don’t know of any modern device that can do that. This requires an independent, buffered clock with calendar and a special hardware layout. Situations is just an app. However, any function that relieves the battery is welcome.
If the phone completely switches off and on controlled by clock, the SIM PIN must be switched off. Otherwise the phone hangs on SIM PIN input when switching on again. I consider this not as a good idea. But clock controlled switching to flight mode could be a way.
means power save mode gets activated whenever charger is disconnected.
Power save mode tweaks phone behaviour when the device is in use / handling background synchronization / whatnot - and atm the savings are rather limited.
From idle power consumption point of view: inactivity leads to display dimming and blanking. After which the device gets suspended → whether psm is use/active or not does not matter and power consumption is order of magnitude smaller than what power save mode can accomplish.
[But turning radios off etc according to some kind of schedule as suggested in other comments would lead to further reduction in power consumption.]
IMHO, this group of settings {20%, 15%, 10%, 5%, off} should be extended with two others values {90%, 50%, 20%, 15%, 10%, 5%, off} where 50% indicates a strong propency to saving energy and 90% almost keep the phone locked in energy saving mode.
Moreover, the option:
Enable battery saving mode until charger is connected the next time
should change in this more useful:
Enable battery saving mode until next time got charged at 90%
The reason it is obvious, it is enough that I connect the smartphone just the time to trasfer some data from it with the MTP via USB and the energy saving mode will be reset to the normal but no a very little charge has been transfered to the battery.
Finally, the threshold in charging at {80%, 90%} will do the rest. In order to keep the smartphone always in energy saving mode. At the cost of few meaningful changes. Personally, I would add 70% at the values above, for those the battery is somehow compromised.
Is it possible to generate a patch for PatchManager to changes this behaviour? Which files are involved in changing reconfiguring the UI and/or its business logic? Because for the message to change, it is supposed to be translated in many languages in order to correctly address the various localisations.
Maybe. It is unless there are changes to any binary files required (i.e. source code change and recompilation).
In that case, Patchmanager is not the right tool to use.
(Although in theory, everything PM does should also work for patches to binaries. I don’t think it has been tried though, and it’s not what it’s designed for.)
Take a look at /usr/share/jolla-settings/pages/battery/mainpage.qml from package jolla-settings.
Those being Open Source components means you should submit changes as a pull request to Jolla, rather than creating a patch or distributing your own, changed binaries.
Cron jobs were for that purpose. Maybe it’s also with a systemd service possible with a timer. Chatgpt says this: Yes, you can write a systemd timer to shut down the system at a specific time. Here are the steps to do so:
Create a new service file in the systemd directory by running the command:
sudo nano /etc/systemd/system/shutdown.service
Add the following lines to the file:
[Unit]
Description=Shutdown system
[Service]
Type=oneshot
ExecStart=/sbin/poweroff
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
Save and close the file.
Create a new timer file by running the command:
sudo nano /etc/systemd/system/shutdown.timer
Add the following lines to the file, replacing “HH:MM” with the time you want the system to shut down:
Oh and that for the original question, i would only edit the mcetool command to go into power saving mode: Yes, it is possible to create a systemd timer that puts the system into energy-saving mode after a period of inactivity. Here are the steps to do so:
Create a new service file in the systemd directory by running the command:
sudo nano /etc/systemd/system/sleep.service
Add the following lines to the file:
[Unit]
Description=Put system into energy-saving mode
From the good old BB10 times, I have a habit to keep the phone with the display facing down when I don’t use it. So for that use case it would be useful to have an option to have the power saving mode enabled when the phone is placed face down. I guess that a very simple service reading the orientation sensor (it doesn’t have to be too frequently, even once a minute should suffice) and turning the psm mode on/off accordingly would do the job. It might also offer some additional options like enabling/disabling BT, GPS, WiFi etc. when the display is facing down. Maybe I’ll do it if/when I find some spare time…
What exactly does the powersave mode do? Or is this the same mode, when you get the battery warning and your phone is nearly unresponsive, because of the cpu locked to its lowest frequency?
initially I thought of this. This is long ago. Meanwhile this problem seems to no more appear in an annoying way after some SFOS updates since 2021. For me no more a problem.
It saves battery power while standby / idle. The CPU clock frequency goes down, therefore the CPU consumes less power. Also some circuits of the phone are are switched to standby mode or to deep sleep mode and not full working.
However, there is not the counterpart that brings back to the normal state when the screen is unlocked - whetever it needs a PIN or not but just completed the unlock.
I enabled power saving mode with ‘mcetool --set-power-saving-mode=enabled’ turned the display off, wifi disabled, mobile data enabled and checked the log of battery buddy after 45 minutes and it made no difference in power consumption. Has anyone checked this with a phone which doesn’t suffer from battery drain in idle?
