Are you seriously suggesting a 2-3x price phone to cover the chipset upgrade?
That’s ridiculous. I’m glad they didn’t go for that.
That’s not how rounding works. You are being willfully dishonest in your argument.
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They almost got != They got almost
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Yeah, in this price finding anyone interested would be almost impossible (and it’s hard now). Even Nothing has problems with flagship phones, because designing one & manufacturing costs a lot (especially when you are small company), and then selling one even with Android is hard, but with SFOS…?
@iolala Actually displays lower than 6.4” are rare now. Only Pixels (9/9A/10/10A), few models of Motorola, Sharp, iPhones, Xperia 10 VII, and maybe few Samsung devices (mostly flagships) have this type of displays. I know it’s sad, but it’s reality. Small displays basically don’t exist on low end phones, and barely exist in mid range ones, but we all already know that.
EDIT: I forgot about Fairphone 6
Few days ago I found out about Sharp Aquos Sense 9 and 10 and I dream of having it and running SFOS or other flavour of GNU/Linux. Handiness has been pushed aside currently…
I know I’m a captain obvious over here, please don’t hate me 
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I finally got the screen refresh rate information: 90Hz.
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What’s your source? 90Hz sounds awesome
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Source : #sailfishos-meeting log
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I actually prefer a smaller screen but I also have a 8” tablet I can use for bigger stuff.
It also depends how well the phone is optimised. Unfortunately a iPhone mini 13 is much better optimised than for example the light phone 3 for their size and web related tasks. The bigger downside for me in small phones is their battery. Most of the time if I use a gps I need to have it plugged in or use a powerbank afterwards if I’m away. Which defeats the small phone actually. 
I’m just curious will the phone have native Linux drivers or will it be based on libhybris (vendor supplied android drivers blobs)? Can’t find this info
afaik it is libhybris based
Native Linux drivers for mobile components would be a big dream—where do we have this today?
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I see, I just had a tiny hope that this was the purpose of making your own phone, partnering all along the supply line with vendors to have a fully native OS. Otherwise I don’t see any benefit of it, honestly. It could be based on Fairphone.
fairphone is already well supported even though there seems that fairphone and Jolla management could not agree on an official support (I guess the price of SFOS was probably blocking together with some weaknesses in Jolla’s OS).
I agree that there are still miles to go on the road and using Linux drivers would be better. I think you have to convince first some hardware vendors that there is a market
Jolla phone has already accomplished something, which is to be assembled in Europe, something which has not been done for many years. it is not the same but pieces need to be put before the whole thing is established.
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Native Linux drivers can’t probably happen, if you need to pick the parts of the shelf. Let’s just hope Jolla becomes multi billion company, which then have a little bit more saying to the component vendors 
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You’re right, that’s the reality of the current business ecosystem. Hopefully we will see more capable open hardware in the future.
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This post has not aged well. 
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For the future Jolla phone, please make it recognize a monitor via usb-c and enter Desktop mode. And use it as a laptop pc!
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Also an illustration of why the hardware business is difficult and unpredictable. :\
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It would be much less unpredictable if countries had and enforced anti-trust laws.
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What is the current status of the J2 batch #1 shipping? Where, in which forum channel, can I see if the shipping is already started?
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