Yeah. We have heard intensively about that C2 of yours. That was a lot of crossposting on top of that indeed.
Please keep it in your thread thank you.
We all know now that your battery has swollen. Customer service was the one to reach for guarantee (if you bought the phone first hand) not the forum i think, they are the ones who can propose you eventuelly a replacement unit, not us.
You can also google ‘iphone swollen battery’ to realise thats a worldwide thingy. And its not a thing we can reply much about cause it all also depends on how the user possible missused his phone (if one forgets a phonr under the sun wellll)
If its a decent phone it will sell to many people that like SFOS even for 100 euro more than the price you mention. Thus far most if not all the HW jolla has produced or used (xperias) was borderline crap. Or at least unsuited for the SFOS UX.
We need to be realistic, the only successful recent collaboration has been with Reeder. Like the C2, the next Jolla phone will likely be a slightly customised version of an existing Reeder model, either the S23 or an S71 variant, that’s my guess.
Maybe the answer is obvious, but why don’t you simply buy a bunch of Xperia phones and roll with that? The price for the Xperia 10 series is fine IMO, you could simply flash SFOS on them and sell them.
I think that it doesn’t matter to sales if phone costs 450€ compared to for example 600€, at least not negatively. Most of the customers are from EU so most people can buy either one if they want. If I have understood correctly C2 has sold much more than 2000pcs with unattractive specs. Wouldn’t it make sense that next gen phone would sell even better if SFOS would have once again native option with good specs?
That’s mostly the main problem when wanting a new SailfishOS device. Always the same. Also ports mostly are very good, but as soon port is available, device is away from market.
Oh maybe… I am not sure about the global market for Jolla and the average budget of potential customer on large scale of course.
I can only speak for myself and for the maybe 10 people to whom introduced Sailfish X and converted to by an Xperia and to buy a licence to Jolla. And i think they are enthousiastic to go for this OS, but as we know there are always some small bugs or missing features here and there so the price they would put need also to fit that small downsides, and i know they would not pay more than 400eur. Also i cannot usually recommend nowadays to a full newbie a C2 (its named C2 for a reason: its aimed at the existing Community i think) because the processor is a little too slow for average daily use for someone coming from a midrange phone and the form factor is a little too big for people i talked with.
But a 6’ C2 with a midrange processor (and eventually a slightly better hardware: small improovements in loudspeaker, glasstype and dustproofing) for 400eur/450eur i would definitely be able to widely recommend and likely people i know would buy it (i dont think they would pay more for testing a new OS) and enjoy.
Sure, even Jolla clearly has stated that C2 wasn’t designed to be consumer device. I am just scared that if we wish phone in that price range we would get lower spec device than Sony Xperia 10 V. In Finland that phone has costed 449€ (with VAT). As Jolla needs to make extra money out of the hardware for it to be worth it we should add immediately at least 100-200€ for that. And I kind of hope the specs would be even better than in 10 V.
Can be that my understanding of business is really off but that seems like a stretch to have phone with similar or better specs with lower price. What I meant that in Europe most people in continent could afford the phone if they wish. No disillusion that it probably will have missing features or bugs that aren’t present in android/IOS phones but that is more of topic if people want to use SFOS or not. Good HW can help in the user experience, at least in my opinion.
Vollas devices are at least partly still available, and the ports mostly good, based on what you can read on the forum and in case of the current Quintus device on my own experience
