Next gen Jolla Phone

To this I can’t say much because I don’t own a C2. But had similar problems with Xperia 10: It works really fine if the phone is in a thick protection case that keeps hands/fingers away from the edge of the touchscreen. Without case, it’s nearly unusable when normally holding it.

I have no problems swiping with the transparent bumper on the C2. In comparison to my XZ2 Compact, it seems Jolla has adapted the touch zones on the C2 to address possible problems with it. On the XZ2, I had to swipe from outside the screen into it; on the C2, this isn’t necessary.

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The first phone by Jolla is nicknamed J1.
I think of the Jolla Tablet simply as the T1, people just call it Jolla Tablet.

The first community phone (Jolla × Intex) is called Jolla C and now nicknamed C1.
The second community phone is called Jolla × Reeder C2.

So, if the coming phone is sold under the Jolla brand, then it is J2.
If it is a community phone then it is C3.

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Let’s say for the sake of the discussion that Jolla has the specs nailed down for the next community phone. Jolla themselves are mainly a software company and they don’t have enough experience developing a HW phone. That means that they need an outside company in order to do that. How did they do it for the C2 phone (Intex?)?

As they rely on an outside company in order to make a phone, it is likely to be an already known design and no cutting edge. They can choose specs with tech that is considered mature, nothing wrong with that BTW.

The most interesting question for me, what is the expected time from Jolla orders the phone until it is ready for launch?

I use my Xperia 10iii bare with no problems.

Well, I can’t say the same. After months of use it still feels awkward, but for me the main problem is the size of it.

EDIT What I’m trying to say is that the gestures of SailfishOS makes the user hold and handle the phone differently compared to Android’s virtual buttons. The Sony Xperia 10iii that I own feels like two completely different beasts depending on the OS.

None of the specs I’ve suggested (mid-class, premium-class, mid-mini class) use state of the art hardware for that reason. Much of the phone design is dictated by the chosen SoC (and the related reference design).

Not even a second USB-c port is state of the art at this time, although rainbow unicorn tech stays in heavy development.

About screen sizes.

My 10III’s display died and, while removing the antenna plate to check it, I cracked the main PCB, so while waiting for the 10V I ordered I dug out my XA2.

So, my conclusion is that life is MUCH better with big screens, and it fits in my pocket nicely too (as does my 6.79” Redmi 12).

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Coincidentally, I’d also been using my old XA2 a bunch recently, but - conversely - I ended up falling in love with the small screen – the XA2, with it’s 5" display, just feels so much more convenient for one-handed usage and feels so much nicer in the pocket than my current 6.3" phablet of a phone.

…hey Jolla, any chance we could get 2 next-gen phones? :squinting_face_with_tongue: /j

(apologies for the previous, now-deleted post – I wasn’t aware that Discourse doesn’t let one… actually delete posts??)

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Sorry, I meant XA2 Plus, 6 inches but 18:9.

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For me the aspect ratio is important: my Blackberry Passport has only a 4.5" inch screen. However, it is much better to use than the tall 6" Xperia 10 screen., it even feels bigger.
I prefer bigger screens in current (elongated 20:9 or so phones) compared to small screens of the same aspect ratio.
But with 16:9 screens 5.8" screen feel much bigger and better than the nunbers suggest, when one has only the current elongated devices in mind.
I would prefer the 16:9 screen with lower overall inches. Similar to original jolla phone, or the generation of LG G4 devices. They were good form factors.
But please no Apple mini toy-form factor for me…
I had to use these in previous jobs, software was horrible, but also the form factor felt like a cheap toy for me. Please no Apple like.

In fact screens with aspect ratio closer to squared are bigger for equal screen diagonal. The latter just isn’t a very suitable figure for measuring screen size

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The tool below makes it easier to get a grip on display sizes and aspect ratios.

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The quote above might also help when comparing.

a pity that the screen size calculator does not actually calculate the screen size

What size do you need?

I don’t need any, but I would expect sonething like width multuplied by heigth

It actually does:

And comes to show that a 5 inch phone can fit in the body shape of Xperia X Compact with 2 front facing speakers. Perfect for one hand use!

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No, it does not. It shows width and heigth, but not their product

This online calculator gives you the area too…

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Very similar to the mid mini specs, it seems…

The Sony Xperia X Compact was 129×65×9.5 mm.

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