Next gen Jolla Phone

i too am not part of this “must be tiny” crew.

i read on my phone, so i need area and preferably area in 18:9 format.

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So… What would be the goldilocks specifications?

or
Search for a translation of the Swedish word lagom.

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my most favourite maemo/meego/sfos experience was with the XA2 Plus - a 6” 18:9 notchless FHD+ screen.

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“Goldilocks saw a large, 7.5” phone, picked it up and it slipped from her hands, and said, ‘Oh no, it’s too big!’

Then she saw a tiny 5” phone, picked it up and she could barely read it, and said ‘Oh no, it’s too small!’

Then she saw a 6,2” phone, picked it up and said ‘Oh, this is just fine!’”

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Same for me.

Unfortunately it was a low-end phone and ran out of storage space.

At that size it is a mini tablet, imho.

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Remote desktop usage on a phone is sometimes a life-saver.

The only reason why it’s not common is that screens are too small, so it’s the other way around: it’s not practical because some screens do not allow it.

Mobile bandwidths now allow to control a remote desktop from cellular with acceptable or no lag.

As for the UX… People design for the mainstream, and the mainstream is 6+ inches. Even the 6” narrow Sony screen are off mainstream and sometimes make using some websites hard (in portrait it’s too narrow, in landscape it’s too short).

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you shouldn’t do remote desktop. you should do ssh :stuck_out_tongue:

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If you could do everything in ssh, all smartphones would have a keyboard and no touchscreen.

Not that I would not like that, but the world decided otherwise.

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  • Remote desktop is possible through ssh.
  • External keyboards can be connected through USB or Bluetooth.
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My use case also involves a lot of reading, I generally prefer bigger screens, but aspect ratio is in my perspective even more important, the Xperias are too tall, I would prefer 16:9 or similar, then a smaller screen is acceptable

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You need a GUI to remote desktop, even through ssh.

I was saying that if you could do everything via a secure shell and nothing else, there’s no point in having a touch screen, a built-in physical keyboard would be more useful (as Blackberry taught years ago).

About size

  • The risk of dropping the phone increases if the phone is too large to grip properly.
  • The performance and features of a phone doesn’t matter much if it’s too big to bring along.
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SSH has both CLI and GUI capabilities. (see running ssh with the -X option).

A built in keyboard would…

  • decrease the available area for the touchscreen or
  • increase the device thickness.
  • need to have multiple layouts available => multiple versions of the device.
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I see the point is not got…

The difference is between a text and GUI interface.

If the first one could do everything, you would not need a touchscreen.

yes, connected but not disconnected.

Because on unplugging the USB dock, the phone reboots.

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As an owner of Fxtec pro1, keyboard is absolutely wasted effort. World has moved away from keyboards on a phone and it shows in the software support. The amount of bugs you face on day to day basis is furiating. Not only are apps lacking landscape support, but virtual keyboard sometimes keeps opening even when you have the physical keyboard open. And list goes on and on.

EDIT: not to mention the physical wear on the keyboard itself. After some time, it needs to be replaced.

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Running a graphical desktop through ssh requires a mouse, a touchscreen or something similar.

I decided to buy the next Jolla device. I’m moving to non-US environment, thus Sailfish would be a good choise.

I didn’t buy C2 because it had too little cpu power and ram. Anything below 16 GB RAM is ridiculous in a new phone.

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n900 was a good size IMO.
Maybe the main question is, can rails that last the same way the n900’s do last

still be built today?

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