I congratulate the two winning tentacles of the USgov octopus: apple and google for having cornered such an enormous market so completely in a completely natural and totally-not-arranged manner.
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Would it be OK to have a 30-90Hz refresh rate? …a lower rate could save energy.
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Might I suggest a different display size?
The 6 inch display of Xperia 10iii has 1080×2520 pixels (21:9 ratio). …and I wondered about the size of the display if it was cut down to 1080×2160 (18:9 ratio). The diagonal was 5.3 inches.
I know that some of you might like that size, but…
A 18:9 display with roughly the same area as the Sony, perhaps? It took a while until I figured out the answer. The diagonal of that display would be 5.8 inches.
So what I propose is a 5.8 inch display that…
- has an aspect ratio of 18:9 (or 2:1).
Compared to the 21:9 ratio of the 10iii. - measures 66 × 132 millimetres.
6mm wider and 8mm shorter than the display of the 10iii. - has a resolution of 1080 × 2160 pixels
Compared to the 1080 × 2520px of the 10iii.
I’m awfully sorry for being so goldilockish, but hey, less is more.
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Above 65mm width phones feel kind of wide to the hand.(and i suspect smaller for people with smaller hands) Its not only a length issue.
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True, but a display with a higher aspect ratio than 18:9 (2:1) makes the landscape view feel like a looking through a letterbox opening.
As I said. I’m being goldilockish.
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I don’t disagree. 2:1 is an ok ratio for a screen. The extra long stuff feel weird.
I hope the industrial design is sane even though i don’t have faith they will deliver something nice. 
Playing bass guitars has taught me that not only width counts but thickness does too.
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The problem is that you cant have a custom made phone the same way you can have a custom instrument. I would have designed mine ages ago. As i did with my bass guitar. 
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Cool. I designed my fretless too. A fellow in Yorkshire built it.
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No, I have never, will not and would even not know how to utilise RPMs for SailfishOS under FreeBSD. Why and what for?
You wrote, “Why not make it easy to build apps by everyone? Maybe even on the phone? Put all the dev tools on the phone” and I asked, “What is missing from your perspective?”.
P.S.: Maybe you meant the dreaded Sailfish-SDK with “it”? If so, my personal advice is to stay away from it and simply build your RPMs either on a SailfishOS device, using Coderus’ Docker images in GitHub or GitLab CI-workflows, or let the SailfishOS-OBS do the work. I never used the Sailfish-SDK directly in order to avoid a steep learning curve for a bugged tool, which has extremely limited application and adoption, hence that know-how is useless elsewhere; though I indirectly use it as part of Coderus’ Docker images.
Maybe yes. And about your next post, I use for 6 years Redmi 5 Plus (with SFOS) which has 5.99" display with 18:9 1080x2160 and I think it is ideal ratio. Maybe also 19.5:9 could be too, it is used by Apple in iPhone and some Android smartphones have it too. 21:9 is too narrow.
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It’s possible to use SailfishOS SDK on FreeBSD with Linuxulator but it is needed to have Linux on PC for unpack/install the SDK.
Please create for questions/topic an own thread, if they are unrelated to the main topic. This Thread is about the next generation of the jolla phone.
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Should the next Jolla phone contain AI functionality?
Please NO! (only my few cents)
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Likely it’s already too many of us degailling their exact screen proportions, i guess the partner providing the phone will not propose such a custom possibility 
. But its a fun exercise nevertheless.
Many people, including myself, got used to and started to love the Xperia long but easy-in-hand screens.
So i hope the Xperia porting still continues alongside Next gen Jolla Phone…
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There are three types of camera stabilisation:
- OIS – Optical uses special hardware to keep thing stable.
- EIS – Electronic uses software to keep things stable.
- HIS – Hybrid uses both hardware and software to keep things stable.
- EIS and HIS need specialised software to do the magic.
- OIS needs more expensive mechanical hardware to do the magic.
For the next Jolla phone, choosing optical stabilisation would make the software side much easier.
Most 5G phone SoC contain image processing which would make an OIS camera into a HIS, but that would require that the software side runs under the chosen OS. The problem is that the chosen OS usually is assumed to be Android, not SaifishOS.
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Right now Jolla serves two different display sizes:
- The 6.5+ inches of the C2.
- The 6.0 inches of the Xperia 10 series.
so adding… - The 5.8 inches I suggest for the NG
would offer a third size option to the buyers.
If Jolla continues with more devices in the NG line-up then it would make sense to start with the smaller and less complicated one. …and create a device with more cameras and gizmos later.
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It’s already been communicated in the last community event that the intent (from Jolla / Venho) is for the Venho SDK to be available and the development of a Sailfish OS mobile for AI (Mind2 and other Venho functionality) would be a community-driven effort (whereas the non-SFOS apps would be from Venho themselves).
So I don’t think the next Jolla phone needs to contain it, rather it is a “deliverable” that can ship independently, presumably in the Jolla Store, so users can opt-in to any capabilities it provides (not to mention provides an opportunity to get a Mind2 and have it be more useful than its current day software).
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Give me a dummy thicc phone with IBIS 
Only half kidding. But OIS can only get you so far, if the image processing sucks then you can have the most stable photo in the world and it’d still look like it was shot on a potato. Indeed the image processing really needs to be on the SFOS side and actually work out-of-the-box.
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