Next gen Jolla Phone update - 12/25

I was on SFOS since the J1 and until my xz2c stopped working two months back. The J1 was much more usable at its time. Many stuff hadn’t bit rotted and it was on par with a normal linux distro (a bit less maybe).

From lack of updates to main parts of the OS to alienation of the community of devs things have gone downwards. And its pretty normal to have ups and downs -given the shaky history of Jolla (ownership, mistakes etc)- but i see no clear vision forward now that many of those issues have been resolved. As i said i hope we get a roadmap for what is coming at some point. Or at least of what ios planned to be fixed in the short term.

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I’m not the typical “smartphone” user and I have used Sailfish OS solely since its inception with the J1. My use cases have been covered to this day. I do agree that a roadmap to enhance the OS is welcome. At the moment it is unclear what Jolla is trying to accomplish.

@Jolla Is it possible to share a company update about the strategy going forward. Is it solely focusing on the software development with hardware on the side or is the plan to produce hardware more frequently and subsequently generate an income stream?
We get slow incremental releases at the moment, but no clear release schedule is present. Is there a plan to get a more frequent schedule set up (monthly, quarterly)? And what are you planning on features for the OS?

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In some cases that is true. But if you are using the latest and greatest “sfos reference device”, you have to choose between a very basic and outdated browser, or an extremely laggy Android browser.
Not really a problem in other devices but it is problem with C2.

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You might want to try this… have heard about a serious speed up for C2 with this:
Bessere Nutzung des Arbeitsspeichers unter Linux mit zRAM – Linux-Bibel (translate it, if you cant speak German.

It is about Zram:
“ZRAM is a technology integrated into the Linux kernel, also known as ‘Virtual Swap Compressed in RAM’ or ‘zSwap’. ZRAM creates a compressing block device directly in the computer’s memory. This enables more efficient use of memory, as the kernel first occupies all available RAM and then attempts to compress parts of it into ZRAM when memory is full.”

Best regards
Fuchur

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Weirdly enough i just fixed the hw of my xa2 and now gps works like a charm…

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@ApB I am not really sure why you are here if you dislike the OS so much.

Anyway, my X10 III GPS has always worked flawlessly. it takes around 1 min to lock, otherwise no problem. Just using Pure Maps and OSM Scout Server for navigation.

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I can confirm that. My morning routine if I need navigation is:

  • Turn mobile data on
  • Turn WiFi off
  • Go outside
  • Activate GPS
  • Start GPS-Info
  • Start OSM-Scout or HereWego
  • Navigate
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I have a similar use case. You can leave GPS on all the time because it only draws power when an app calls for GPS, as indicated by the blinking GPS icon in the top right of the status bar.

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Man I always feel so weird when I read these kind of threads :sweat_smile:

Have had the J1, then XA2, then 10II and 10III, never ever had any of these network/GPS problems. Google maps or native map software, they just worked.

Luck of the Irish maybe but it’s weird that it can apparently be so flaky for some and never an issue for others.

As for the aesthetic… Don’t mess with perfection please. The iOS liquid glass update should be enough of a lesson, change for change’s sake is for morons.

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I guess sometimes it’s a HW problem and not the SFOS.

What is the lesson exactly here though?
That if you update your UI/IX yearly for 20 years there might be a version where needs more refinement?
And this is comparable with sfos UI/UX evolution over the last 12 years?

Anyway, these are probably pointless discussions.
Like Jolla could afford a UI overhaul and won’t do it because of the amazing QT5 vibes and because it’s too perfect.

I think he meant that Apple just moved to more translucency in iOS. So they basically moved to something some people here say looks “dated”

Cause i trully believe its the only viable alternative to ios and android.

What i dislike is the bit rotting and -lately- all the people that act like there are no issues and try to sugarcoat everything.

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plus :100: (and no dislike at all…)

With all due respect (this is not meant as a personal attack, so please don’t take it as such), I’m equally bothered by narratives that make it seem like nothing works and the OS is completely unusable.

I’ve been daily driving and exclusively using Sailfish ever since the J1 coming from a Nokia N9 (even though I do have an android tablet for home/entertainment use), so the OS is very much usable to me. Good enough to stick with it for a decade.

Everything is perfect? Hell no. Is the whole thing a burning mess? Hell, not either! This is a grey world and we should all stop trying to paint it in black and white.

/rant over, sorry :smile:

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It obviously depends on your needs but there are issues that have stuck around for quite some time.

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I’d say the lesson is that Jolla got it right. The whole raison d’Être of Sailfish was to have this touch/slide interface. And iOS and Android had nothing like it… And today, they have both almost entirely copied that kind of interface.

Aesthetically, they seem to get close to Sailfish every year.

I’d say that the designers got a lot of things really, really right with Sailfish and there’s very little I would ask to change. The timeout tickers are a bit annoying, but otherwise I find it so intuitive to work with it feels like a non-interface.

Every time I have to use iOS it makes me want Apple to just hurry up and rip off the last bits they haven’t done yet (a live desktop mode, and hold-to-not-rotate for example).

The browser is desperately in need of an update, but what would you like to see changed in the UX? I really can’t think of anything.

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104 posts were split to a new topic: UI and gestures in SFOS

The regning os duopoli imposes their own language worldwide. The much maligned aspect ratio of the Xperia lll is specifically to optimise video viewing. As stated in spec documentation

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And since 99% of the content is 16:9 and the rest of the screen is just black bars, they went back to the 19.5:9 like everyone else last year.

Let’s be real here. No one gets a phone like this to watch 21:9 movies. They just wanted to be different the sony way.

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