Despite the cie not working, the spid perfectly works so, in this regard there is no real problem
There is no substitute for google wallet nor it will be, unless some society decide to develop a native sailfish wallet, but luckily (for me) this is more of a convenience rather than a necessity, so i can happily live without
As for the bank, mine works (ho un conto alle poste, e anche la postepay va)
My prepaid card works nicely too, althought from last year they require microg which is a opensource re-impkementation of the google play services
Maybe someone in the group can tell you more, and you can have a look at the italian apps thread, but keep in mind that if you are so tied to google services and similar sailfish will not be a replacement, but probably a disappointment…
Because you also need to have approval and to make a contract with payment processors, and to also declare yourself as such. This means also being in bed with Visa and MasterCard. And I won’t get into the technical details of the complexity of such a service, as well as the security measures involved.
Yes. This.
Grouping entirely unrelated things (from a technical point of view) into one and the same app just because a physical wallet has that usage is a recipe for endless confusion and whining.
People coming here and asking about comparisons must also remember that SFOS is a functioning OS and many people have never gotten very deep into the other ecosystems - so assuming that everyone knows what a “wallet” is according to some other OS also isn’t great. Let’s talk about actual functionality and not packaging.
I never understand why people need to use an app for everything.
Honest question.
I live in the EU, I am perfectly fine with my SFOS phone as main & only driver.
Of course I also have another computer at home; don’t people anymore these days?
But even so, I can do everything I can do at home on the phone, too, even if it gets a little cumbersome with my fat fingers and failing eyesight.
Of course an operating system like SFOS will be at its limits, and these people end up using appsupport more than anything. It becomes the single most imprtant issue for them, or so it seems from numerous forum posts. Everything has to work in appsupport, otherwise it’s a “dealbreaker”.
If I was a SFOS developer I’d feel pretty pissed off at this attitude. Why even go for it at all, when there’s no appreciation for what quality of life improvements it brings ?
With every single thing you think you really need an app for, please ask yourself if that is actually true. Can you not achieve the same by some other means, maybe physically, or in a regular browser window. Even if it’s a little more cumbersome. Or simply do it a little later. Or less altogether.
Just to clarify, I can work without the wallet but not without CIEID and Banking app. Those are must have unfortunately.
BTW I did spread the voice about Sailfish and Jolla to someone that when buys do in in 100s.
I might even be more hardcore that that! I’m kind of a contrary guy, so I’m told, but when I see something that (“they say”) can be only done with an app (and only a Google or Apple app) then I just don’t do it. If it’s a necessity, then it’s a necessity I do without.
Talk about sacrifice: just the other day I had to pass on Girl Scout cookies since they were only taking Venmo!
Let’s hope that banking and gov id app usability will improve in near future. As all banks operating in Finland works with AAS it is sometimes hard to understand why in some countries they rely so heavily in Google services….
I am not yet a sailfish / Jolla phone user, I am waiting to become one when the new one will be shipped. What ever I say now, is just my opinion… (which might change).
Banking apps and others: even with most (all) of my banking apps working on grapheneOS, I don’t use them there. For all this I use a “ Idiot Android Phone" and I do not carry it around. Why? My daily driver phone could get stolen, or brake. Getting all banking apps running on an new phone is a pain in the ass, which I gladly avoid with the idiot phone in the drawer in the safety of my home. (Yes, it might die somewhen….)
For me getting along without play services and Google / ios sniffing on me is a challange I have fun with. It’s only sometimes a burden.
Can’t use an app or a service? Fuck it, they don’t deserve me as a customer.
Therefor: a big thanks to the Jolla team and everyone writing software for sailfish. (Or any open source software.)
It might still be a long way to go, but without support and some acceptance for drawbacks in regards of “convenience", it won’t work out.
Having one phone is enough. I cannot have 2. That is harassment
I really hope the sailfish and Jolla phone will continue.
As community I suggest you do not have a posture like “you shall adapt”, instead push technically and economically and politically to be on equal foot with Android as app support.
I hate Corps intruding in my life, still I need my bank and my country ID.
stay with appledroid and hope that Jolla somewhen fulfills your needs.
improve the situation by contributing with software / manpower yourself.
give a shit load of money to Jolla, that they can hire people to do what is necessary to become a big player with improved software needed to convince the masses.
none of the above? Adapt to the situation best you can .
Possibly I forgot an option or two, but you get my point.
Well, there are two levels of the “lockscreen check”:
Before the patch was made, when my Xperia 10 III was still running AppSupport 11, I had already set a lockscreen pin using these instructions:
After that, I could use a security feature of one banking app I use, which checks for a lockscreen to allow you to use only one password to unlock the app. For using Wero in the other banking app, I actually needed to enter the lockscreen PIN, for which the patch with the stub implementation of keyguard was needed.
I don’t know what kind Alfabeto is using (just checking or actually using the lockscreen) so maybe you have a chance!
