New Jolla Phone readyness

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This is what killed alternatives for so long. If Jolla and SFOS want to boom, apps need to be tackled one by one.

Here we are not speaking of official support from banks but a decent working app.

Another part of it is the EU stack being promoted and lobbying to app producers like banks and governments

Then dedicated version will arrive

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Not everyone has a big fat wallet. And not everyone is in tech. So doubts are natural and should be taken serious. GPS is a normal feature on phones. Jolla 1 had it already. As for banking, this is a problem since banks demand from us that we use their apps.

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In case you didn’t know, today is day 4456 - this is not some new thing. What you see is generally what you get.
There is only so much Jolla can do when banks and whatnot are quite literally working against them - knowingly and unknowingly.

What does this even mean?

This is is well known limitation and has been discussed so many times.
A “VPN App” is just a convenience to install it, not at all needed for the service. I wish people stopped confusing the terms App and Service so they would intuitively understand this.

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The Android I have used in the last years has always been one of the cheapest (<150€).

Unfortunately, I depend on two or three banking apps that can’t be run in SFOS. So, sadly, I have no alternative.

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I just downloaded Proton VPN for the sake of Ghep’s question. I had never used it and I think I will not do it in the future. In fact, I already uninstalled it…

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You won’t with google wallet etc.

I recommend having a second, an idiot phone, for applications that intrinsically violate your privacy.

I use my idiot phone for Taxi.eu, Uber, EasyPark, DHL and other stuff that will track you, steal your data and sell it to some company or the US government if there is a notable difference anyway.

You cannot have privacy and apps stealing your data on the same device.

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SFOS is not an OS that will replace your Android/iPhone.

If you depend on certain apps you are better off with an android/ios phone.

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Well but maybe it should someday.

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There are banks that work. And unless you’re extremely unlucky and no app in your country works you can choose one that works - vote with your wallet.

Or better yet, if some of your local banks supports an api, someone can create a native SailfishOS app.

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There are many things that could be done now to move it forwars but still there is not going to be android/ios.

My benchmark is SFOS being able to do everything that my daily linux distro can (taking into account the weaker HW specs and form factor ). At this point it cannot.

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Unless there are some special features that I’m not even aware of, MS authenticator works just fine for me on a Xperia 10 II with microG installed.

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Someone reported in other topic that it does work now.

I use Proton Mail daily. For me only nofications don’t work I don’t care for that as I don’t want nagging anyway. With native AAS only.

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Again, what is microG? :slight_smile:

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Is your chosen search engine broken?

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You mean: LMGTFY? :wink: (20 chars)

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If you ask. No. I mean LMDDGTFY :laughing: .

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@lupastro , one doesn’t need any VPN app in SFOS (contrarily to Android).
SFOS has built in VPN inside the OS, so one only needs the config file to make it work on a desired VPN provider.
So on SFOS, no ‘VPN app’ is needed!

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I know that more than enough.

I only installed Proton VPN to give feedback to Ghep on whether Proton Apps worked on SFOS or not.

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Every phone does. Apps are made for convenience, it’s not mandatory.

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Per its GitHub page,

microG GmsCore is a free software reimplementation of Google’s Play Services. It allows applications calling proprietary Google APIs to run on AOSP-based ROMs like LineageOS, acting as a free replacement for the non-free, proprietary Google Play Services (sometimes referred to as the more generic term “GApps”). It is a powerful tool to reclaim your privacy and freedom while enjoying Android core features (although apps you use that take advantage of it may still be using proprietary libraries to communicate with microG, just as they do when communicating with the actual Google Play Services).

You can install microG on your Sailfish OS phone from F-Droid. We should have a good set of instructions here somewhere.

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