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1 GitHub
2 What is it?
3 Why doesn’t it work?
4 What alternatives are there?
Good for them. There were custom roms that did that as well like cyanogen mod (lineageOS) with the 1+1, e OS etc.
Who cares is the question since all of them are android custom roms.
If success for Jolla means to ridicule themselves for years like some dudes do to promote their roms, I would prefer them to stay invisible to the public.
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Yes they do! What are you talking about? I looked into the native pre-installed apps for SFOS before spending any money and still couldn’t name one. Some appear to be named after their function but that’s it. Sailfish Browser or Email. The website isn’t forthcoming with this information.
I don’t understand here. What exactly is the problem?
That Jolla can’t magically fix issues without money flowing?
That you can’t find info for a platform that allegedly you invested?
That you can’t fix that issue yourself?
What exactly are we arguing about here?
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Then you would prefer them to go bust (again) and leave your expensive phone without support?
I know we can be a little extreme in the FOSS world but cutting off our nose to spite our face isn’t necessary
I own 7 sfos devices and the j2 would be the 8th device.
All of them were supported for many years and 5 of them still are. Why should I be worried about anything?
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The default app store is only available to those who already own an SFOS phone.
The ecosystem relies upon multiple community led initiatives for completeness.
Most customers expect all of their essential apps to be in one easy to access location.
This is a multilayered problem that Jolla should address. We should try our best (even though I believe devs should be the ones doing the talking for the most part) to make our concerns known here in the forum, justify our opinions and see what happens.
Other than that, all community efforts were made so that we still have apps to use since Jolla could not deliver in that sector.
Sailfish OS is almost perfect and should not be criticized but propose. Those who are not satisfied with jolla must continue to use the other systems. Thank you to all Jolla’s Team members, staff and programmers. Happy New Year !
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A developer’s opinion should have more weight than mine in this community. But developers can’t buy enough phones to keep Jolla afloat. When projects do well I make recommendations to friends.
Customers provide the revenue to employ developers. Jolla can’t invest iPod profits into iPhone designers to sustain their efforts. There are some glaring issues with SF repo UI and accessibility. In fact, this is the most closed Open Source project I’ve ever seen.
Humour me for a moment. Can someone tell me, without looking at your phone, what the default web browser for SFOS is called? Then point me to where I can read about it myself in a marketing page or repo. I know most of you think I’m being stupid or obtuse but this a rudimentary question when discussing software availability.
“The Sailfish OS browser is armed with a Gecko browser engine, designed to take full advantage of the processing power of modern devices. More importantly, the focus of the browser has been on security – introducing features such as site permissions, password manager, and certificate info.”
“100% Faster” (100% means it is THE SAME SPEED. 200% would be DOUBLE.)
“Firefox Quantum is over twice as fast as Firefox from 6 months ago” — Mozilla
Email viewer
The Sailfish OS email viewer (lower case) uses the same engine as the Sailfish Browser (SUDDENLY UPPER CASE). Each browser engine update enables big improvements to the rendering and compatibility, and new features like copy and paste support. (This is boast worthy???)
Is it Firefox adapted to QT? If so, what is it called? SailfishOS sailfish browser?
It’s called browser and it’s the default one.
I would highly recommend getting a cheap supported device and run sfos on it though.
Or at least run it on a VM or something.
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here you can find more info about sailfish-browser (the default browser)
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This is a reflection of how the software is communicated, not the individuals commenting here. One person says ‘browser’ and the other says check GitHub; ‘sailfish-browser.’ Jolla say ‘SailfishOS sailfish browser.’
I intend to in the next few days. But this is what Louis Rossman talks about when he says the FOSS community have unreasonable expectations for end users. What hypothetical sales rep in the history of humanity would urge prospective customers to fire up a virtual machine to learn about default apps on a phone? Then download two more apps to get more essential apps?
I’m forgiving towards underfunded FOSS projects but the J2 costs twice what my current phone did.
Samsung Browser is also called browser on their phone, never seen anyone care much about its naming scheme though.
Regarding the phone and the OS, I think you mixed it up a bit. The phone is a crowdfunding project, doesn’t exist yet.
The OS on the other hand you can try by flashing it to any supported device, community port, or by buying the C2.
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I know and it isn’t really a problem for me. Most GNOME apps are named after their function too.
Sailfishos dot org features a Jolla phone. 3/4 of the way down it mentions a browser. There is no mention of Chum or OpenRepo. The word ‘open’ appears 7 times.
Sailfishos dot org mentions Chum zero times.
Sailfishos dot org mentions Storeman zero times.
Sailfishos dot org mentions OpenRepo zero times.
docs.sailfishos dot org mentions Jolla Store only one time.
And how often is FDroid mentioned in official Google documentation?
Homebrew in Apple’s?
And why should that matter?
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yeah, this. without homebrew, osX was a bit boring 
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Zero times. Google are a monopolistic corporation who exploit free software when it suits them and refuse to acknowledge free alternatives to their own products. No surprises there.
Only mentioned in discussions dot apple dot com, which is equivalent to this forum.
Because people work hard to improve a product and the OS website doesn’t formally recognise them. Useful software is relegated to community repos while the official repo is underserved. Then members of the community need to ASK to merge the repos or relax standards to meet basic needs. Jolla and Sailfish may be different entities but they appear functionally the same.
It doesn’t hurt to identify where projects are lacking. While I can’t do any of the work myself there are basic things any newcomer should have access to. If Sailfish had a proper Wiki I could could fire up a virtual machine and start creating documentation without a Jolla device.
A healthy ecosystem doesn’t need community repos to be merged with corporate repos. Sailfish doesn’t even recognise Chum the way GNOME recognises Flatpak. SailfishOS dot org is a sales pitch for Jolla like pop!OS is for system76. This isn’t inherently bad but it isn’t always healthy either. Corporate FOSS is FOSS with a catch. Avoiding corporate imposition is exactly why I thought SailfishOS was a good idea. Then I learned more about it.