Isn’t there any way to adapt Waydroid to work inside SFOS and without launching the whole Android user interface? (To get rid of the Jolla AAS and all the licence stuff and secretiveness)
Or you could just launch waydroid
To my understanding Waydroid is already working at least in @Mister_Magister ports. So yes it is already possible to run android apps in ports but then you won’t contribute any money towards Jolla, which is half of the point
He wasn’t talking just about waydroid but modifying it so that it works in the same way as aliendalvik does
Also jolla doesn’t need your miniscule contribution of money so if you feel like “oh I gotta give money to those guys” you’ve been brainwashed
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Ah that part I misunderstood so apologies for that. I prefer supporting things I like, which in my case usually means money. If they sell license for 25€/50€ for the AAS it won’t bankrupt me.
they won’t, because they don’t care about minuscule profit like that
And I’m not pulling that from my ass, that has been already talked about with jolla and they said they don’t care
Thats why I’m saying they don’t need minuscule amount of profit they get from selling c2
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I do know that, but that is not what he meant - he meant that he hasn’t time left to flash oses to phones and instead wants to buy preflashed devices
No I don’t think so.
I also understood that at least in @Zephiranthes case one reason to go with C2.
This is also one reason in my case. I had problems installing Linux to my laptop so I prefer babysteps in everything software related.
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That is correct, yes
At this moment for me SFOS (on a Jolla C2) is more convenient than Ubuntu/PostmarketOS - or whatever it will be called in a month -/anyAndroidfork
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Yes, but why should we care about this, if
As I see the situation, we are eternal beta testers and will never get a fully functionable and reliable phone OS, but only a nice tinker system (what is not the worst), and Jolla isn’t interested for more.
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The funniest thing was when @mrcyjanek (sorry for calling u out) wanted to buy C2 for the OOTB sfos experience despite me telling him not to because he can have ootb experience by buying op6 and flashing it or heck I could’ve flashed it for him but naah, only to have it arrive already set up so he couldn’t even go through OOTB setup wizard lmao
When jolla said they will stop making hardware and focus on software they should stick to that, instead they got more ports than I do and most of them are not great thanks to garbage hardware they run on
“I want to support jolla” guess what, even if you use unofficial port, just by using sfos, maybe donating to app devs, spreading word, being part of community, you’re also supporting jolla/sfos and you might even do bigger impact that way, but then again, we’ve already established jolla doesn’t want people to use sfos so i’m not sure about that
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This might be the case, at least it sounds like it has been in the past. And might be that it still is the case. Might be that Jolla talked about wanting to grow the community and offer better platforms to the users but won’t put any resources for that. Now they at least have the change as there isn’t any outside investors included currently (at least to my acknowledge).
As I am new to this community I would like to support (even little) the new start and hope something nice comes out of it. Of course I can do the math that from C2, if Jolla makes +100€ profit of one phone, that is peanuts. Covers maybe 2h of one employee work. If we assume all three of the C2 patches have been 1000pcs per patch that is ~300k€ profit. That covers what, maybe 4-5 employee yearly salary+expenses? And if they support the device for lets say 6 years it isn’t hard to know that it isn’t goldmine. Or even good business. But it definitely makes it possible for people like me to enter the SFOS word more easily. Personally I don’t have enough trust in me I can flash a phone. Or if I can, it will take a lot of time, which I am not ready to sacrifice immediately. I am if I think I will make the jump and daily drive SFOS.
Here I agree 100%. I think the community ports have huge impact to the SFOS and app devs are the lifeline of SFOS usability! Definitely planning to show some love to the app devs also when I am finally able to accuire the SFOS phone and start testing them out.
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