Could enlarge customer base to some tinkerer and hobbyist groups, also school projects and so on…
Port should be downloadable from Jolla homepage and be flashable via browser like GrapheneOS does, and also UBports web installer the same.
Also i miss until now, an understandable guide and/or manual, how porting has to be done.
I haven’t and will not study informatics at the university. The same way as many other in principle interested people.
To be continued…
Both firmwares you mentioned have specific devices that you can flash them to, same as sfosX.
I understand your idea but it’s not possible technically (and not realistic as well for sfos) to download something on any hardware and have sfos running.
And regarding the DIY phone part, that is already possible the way you described it right? I don’t need anyone involved if I want to buy/design parts and make my own.
Hello,
I think the point here is not a technological arms race but rather a different path from that proposed by GAFAM and their partners.
HW and SW go hand in hand, so I think it’s difficult to say anything at this stage.
I don’t think the community’s pre-sales and investments were made with the aim of having an 8k ultra-wide-angle camera, a two-week battery life, a quantum processor or anything else. Most of us are here to find an alternative and contribute to the development (or rather the return) of European technology.
For my part, I am very happy with the path proposed today, even if, of course, there are as many paths as there are people on this forum…
Looking forward to watching Apple’s keynote in September with my Jolla Phone haha
I completely agree. Being waterproof and shockproof is very important to me. The strength of the screen glass it’s also relevant and I think it was not mentioned.
Replaceable battery and waterproof are unfortunately not 100% compatible concepts.
As soon as part of a phone can be actively opened, the water isolation can be automatically (but not necessarily) compromised, be it due to construction flaws, be it due to possible micro-damages during the opening-closing of the cover, etc…
EDIT: My comment is in relation to the J2 and not other phones on the market.
Which also means that any phone will only be waterproof as long as you don’t need to change its battery.
When the battery wears out, either you lose waterproof rating or you lose your ability to use the phone.
This is false and everyone knows it. When you replace the battery in modern phones, you apply a brand new seal that will retain the waterproofing.
However, in the case of J2, I don’t know if or how they’re gonna do it.
My comment was in relation to the J2.
I have the impression that the J2 will be effectively splash proof rather than water proof.
You may not need to change the battery….but you may need to open the phone to insert the SIM and/or SD card.
Thankfully this hasn’t been the case with modern phones released in the past 10-15 years 
Every single phone uses a tray for SIM and microSD cards.
With my Shiftphone 8, the battery is replaceable, the whole device can be repaired. Nevertheless, it is IP66 certified.
It works if you want
There are Xcover device with certain ingress protection where you can swap batteries: the ingress protection is there when the backcover is clipped in again.
Easy, and reliable in these devices, the technology and already established
Have to say, what’s supposed to be an advanced linux-os phone with no USB-C video out, kinda hampers in it of itself. If this doesn’t make the final cut, I’m going to have to opt out, disappointing. Not sure why this was not part of the starter basic components, but surprising it wasn’t.
No, it won’t make “the final cut”, because it was never promised, not even hinted at, and for all intents and purposes, Sailfish is meant as a mobile OS. It has never been ‘convergent’, and I don’t see convergent phones ever taking off anyway. The large phone manufacturers have all the power in the world to create endless phones that let you turn them into a fake desktop computer, and yet they don’t. It’s a gimmick.
People who want “convergent” are sort of like vegans; They’ll make damn sure that everyone knows they want a convergent phone. Even when that was never promised as a feature and when devices that have that feature set come out, the devices never sell.
Simply put; Its a waste of time and resources. Especially for a small, heavily resource limited company like Jolla/Jollyboys. The Ubuntu phones tried this exact thing, I even knew someone who had one and got to try it, but it never sold and even those who had one, like the one I knew, had to admit that it was really just a gimmick.
I understand some people dream SFOS version of DeX or desktop mode (was it the name for Google’s DeX?) since SFOS is basically Linux. But yeah, I agree the priority should be basic features which top 2 mobile OS already have. I have to admit there’re a lot of shortcomings if SFOS would like to be the third choice…
Please stop labeling people. It’s insulting.
In every “group” some can be annoying. I can relate to that. But not all of them.
Could you convince me that a usb-c video out is less or more of a gimmick than the other half?
During the feature request phase it was mentioned that USB-C connectivity for using as a computer would be a big plus. I also mentioned that creating a tablet with the same hardware of the J2 would also gather a lot of interest. And having USB-C connectivity might allow using the phone with a portable touch screen and a powerbank as a makeshift tablet.
That said, Jolla doesn’t have the resources to do all. And I understand that some desired features would not be present, due to not only hardware design constraints but also software constraints.
Still, I’m a bit disapointed about USB-C connectivity because the SoC supports it.