NFTs. Like a donation, but with blockchain or something . . .
Those would just fall under the same financial regulations eventually.
Well, in the long run we’re all dead. But in the meantime there’s stuff to do, and most of that – like keeping SFOS alive and paying my electric bill – takes money.
The whole gaming business has been crushed by NFT’s. Stay way clear of them.
Official support for Xperia 10 IV, Xperia 10 V and the Subscription model were announced for August (see slide at 40:31 in the Love Day 2 video on YouTube). Are we still on track? (There is only one day left for August).
Small correction: support for the 10 IV and V was announced for June-July (“1-2 months”). It was the paid components (AppSupport etc.) what was announced for August.
Guys (who are new to the forum)
Delays are not uncommon. Are we on track ? MHO: Guess not.
Do we have progress: yes, see last announcement in forum.
I assume CE2 is one month behind schedule. Xperias 2.
But that is just my opinion.
I see that Xperia 10 V and Xperia 10 IV appear in the list of supported devices for the free version of SailfishOS Supported Devices | Sailfish OS Documentation.
They have been there for several months.
Are those actually from the free version?
I also hope there are updates for 10 IV!
Hopefully we can install Sailfish soon…
To finish up my thoughts on the “donations for Sailfish development” topic, I doubt that Finnish regulations really pose that much of a hurdle as you make it out to be. “MZLA Technologies Corp.” (the non-tax-exempt US company behind Thunderbird, which operates, as mentioned before, nearly exclusively on donations) does collect donations in Finland as well, without any transactional element to them (as you can see here for yourself: Lahjoita — Thunderbird).
Jollyboys should think about opening such an opportunity for willing donors as well, what Thunderbird/MZLA can do in Finland, Jollyboys should be able to do as well. Right now, one could buy Sailfish licenses without any intent of using them, treating the purchase price as a donation, however having to pay one’s country’s VAT on the purchase price (e.g. as a Finnish resident, that’s an enormous 25.5 %…) severely reduces the amount of money that actually reaches Jollyboys / the Sailfish development efforts, so that’s not a sensible way of doing it.
MZLA Technologies Corp. isn’t based in Finland, so their donation collection doesn’t fall under the finnish laws, while Jollyboys are based in Finland and would be pretty fast under investigation, if they would try to collect pure donations without the permission from the police.
No, what you are referring to are street collections, which have to be announced in many, if not most, countries to the local authorities, that’s not a Finnish particularity. But this doesn’t apply anyway, since nobody is advocating for someone to walk the streets of Finland with a Sailfish charity can.
And Finnish laws apply to any company that is active inside of Finland, domestic or foreign, I’m not sure how you’ve come to this bizarre assessment… and if it would be true, it would be easy to just set up a shell company in a foreign country, and process donations through that, with immunity from Finnish laws.
Means of collecting donations don’t matter; even “pay what you want” pricing is forbidden from companies. Also, selling certain services that do not (at least directly) benefit the buyer are forbidden from companies.
It’s more complicated than that. MZLA Techonologies Corp. doesn’t have an office in Finland nor do they have any assets in Finland and therefore is not obliged to follow the full extent of the Finnish law.
I’m not an expert at this field, but sounds like something that would be useful, if the scale of operations is big enough. I doubt this would make sense in context of Sailfish.
EDIT: grammar…
You mean like in a neighbour country? One which provides digital identities conveniently?
Definitely Estonia is not such a place…
They could sell Jolla stickers for 10 EUR each
They could, and that would probably be ok, but if they asked something like 100€ per sticker, then it would be probably considered as illegal money collection again. The law states you are disguising money collection as sales if you put clearly way too high prices on cheap things.