Jolla C2 Community Phone deliveries

I also ordered it on the 20th of May and I’m waiting patiently to receive the final payment notification by email… .

I also ordered on the 20 of may, 16h35 and not yet have the mail.
But I’m sure It will come, I’d advise not to worry.
It was said earlier in this thread that there is a counter. So, I guess the amount of orders will not be able to be greater than the size of the batch.
Also, priority goes to VOLTE testers and, perhaps, to the sailathon in Prague.

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5 posts were split to a new topic: Android banking apps support with Sailfish 5

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Bloody hell. This thread is about orders and delivery of the Community C2 Phone hardware.

Please start a new topic for enquiries about App Support and its features.

These kinds of posts derailing topics are becoming a real disease on this forum and make finding relevant information increasingly difficult.

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Indeed, asking about the scope of delivery here - what I’m actually buying … :wink::ok_hand:

Will start new threads though as well …

( Wonder if that community tone is representative and will attract further jolla / SFOS-users :thinking: … )

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I apologize for the tone.
But it seems lately any topic posted goes off-topic before reaching 10 replies. It is getting really annoying.

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This was off-topic, problem is solved. Folding original post.

I agree, it’s a problem when threads deteriorate into general chitchat. It could probably have been stated more gently, but the reaction didn’t come from nowhere. @launchpad, you figuratively first drove past the yellow light…

…and then decided to ignore the nudging and went right past the red light, too:

I get that you said the following tongue-in-cheek:

Do you also realize how such widening of scope would make almost any topic fit in this thread - not helping anyone?

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Thanks for the explanations. I do not intend to further inflate this thread - as it’s counterproductive.

Sorry for not getting the yellow light - I do not want to open threads which are useless, getting out of sight.

Indeed obtaining a decision between C2 or 10V for my part essentially depends on how the bootloader-issue is being treated.

The jolla C2 is being promoted as a SFOS reference device, implementing “SFOS as it should” be.
Hence the question, which could’ve been answered quickly and accurately instead of arguing with “shitty apps” and so forth.

As just mentioned, I’ll be starting a new topic.

Thanks for the moderation. Appreciating this.

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This was off-topic, problem is solved. Folding original post.

As such, you had a good question. You could ask @rainemak to break it out to a new thread (I believe only mods are allowed to do this).

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Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy… I got the email!!
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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Me too, yesterday evening. Ordered in May.

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Lucky you! (20 chars)

Back to topic: I received my order link, but it only supports credit card payment.
I do not own a credit card. Can I pay it with PayPal somehow?

Best regards
Fuchur

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I wrote an entry in the old TJC forum.
The gist is that there are 4 ways an app can start on its own on android.

Autostart when android starts

This is controlled with the Sailfish settings app.

click Settings app → switch to Apps tab → select the app → use the " Allow application background service to start on bootup " checkbox (Needs to be off to prevent autostart).

This will prevent the app from autostarting whenever Android App Support is started.

Notifications

Apps can automatically start to show an alert pop-up (if you set some alarm clock thingy inside your app, e.g., a game reminding you that your crops are now ready to harvest or whatever). You need to access the Android settings to change that (either you can use the “Open Android Settings” button in the App’s settings, or there’s a patch called “Launcher icon for android settings” in the Patchmanager Webcatalog)

Either:
click Settings app → switch to Apps tab → select the app → click the “Open Android Settings” button
then from the App’s Android settings → click Notifications
in the notifications setting, tweak to your wishes.

Or:
click Android Settings app → select App & notifications → select Notifications → scroll to the section titled Recently sent
tweak to your wishes

This will prevent applications from autostarting a showing toaster alerts about in-game events, google maps showing alerts about traffic in your area, etc.

Google Cloud Messaging (push notifications)

Whenever an app receives a push notification from the network, the app can start to fetch that network message and act up on it. (e.g.: somebody writes you a chat message, so the Google’s cloud pings your phone to tell that there’s a chat message waiting for you, WhatsApp auto-starts, retreives the chat message and displays it) (or: your bank wants you to click on their 2FA app to confirm an transaction, so Cloud pings your phone, the 2FA app starts and you get the “Please confirm” pop-up). The purpose is to avoid every single app on your phone wasting battery by constantly probing their server for updates, instead everything is centralized through the push notification system.

This can only be controlled if you use microG, as far as I know the proprietary Google Play Service don’t let you configure that.

click microG settings app → select Cloud Messaging → select the app.
You can tweak 2 settings:

  • Start app on push message: You can then select if the app is allowed to autostart to process alerts from the internet when they arrive, or if the alerts will wait until you manually start the app.
  • Allow registration: If the app is even allowed to receive alerts from the internet.

If this function isn’t turn on (your didn’t even install microG), chat apps might not immediatly get chat message but only periodicaly when they directly contact their server, sometime only when you bring the app into focus.
(Usually I allow WhatsApp and the banking app, and kill everything else).

Share suggestions

Whenever you hit a Share button in an Android app, in addition to showing you a list of apps which can share that media type (e.g.: all chat apps can share JPEG photos) like when you click Share on SailfishOS, on Android some apps can auto start and generate a list of suggested share (e.g.: WhatsApp will suggest your top most frequently used contacts).

AliExpress’ shop absolutely loves this function and constantly autostarts whenever you hit an android share button.

I have not found a way to disable this, except either using the SailfishOS share option (doesn’t trigger autostart) or manually kill autostarted application (e.g.: in Crest)


TODO: move this to a Wiki or add to the one @flypig created with the microG howto.

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Hello,
I have also received an invitation. Since I can’t/don’t know how to coordinate several apps that are important to me (due to Bluetooth) and several other apps, I decided to skip the C2 purchase. Since I’ve been trying to support SFos since the First one, is there anyone willing to use my discount coupon to buy a C2? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Maybe discussed elsewhere : what are your thoughts on missing 5G in the new C2 device ?

Personally I don’t care, in most places I am LTE is 150 Mbps, even if less, on phone it’s totally enough in my opinion.

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I second that + 5g power consumption is significantly higher, so I would probably switch to LTE anyway

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A colleague of mine working (in the European Commission) on 5G tech, noted that 5G is about smarter energy management overall. Does this not apply to the device/receiver, on average, as well, compared with older generation networks ?

5G is about using as much frequency bands as possible to transmit as much data as possible, the faster the better. And of course, with low latency. And everything interconnected, i.e. IoT, V2X, etc.

The aim of the standard is mostly to optimize the used resources as much as possible with the final aim of reducing resource usage, i.e. optimize the battery usage of the devices.

Having said that. 4G is more than enough for me.

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