Is there any fully working device out there?

Again the moralists … we are on topic, if you may educate yourself and understand what “implicit meaning” is. To explain - you say something and you mean something else. So what we want to say here is that in our opinion there is no such device (Topic: Is there any fully working device out there?)

2 Likes

If you left Sailfish it’s fine. You have your reasons, and I can understand people who do so.
But why still polluting this forum?
What the heck is wrong with all this constant ranting people?
Is everything fine with Sailfish? For sure not. But why do you care?
If I am fed up with an OS, I’ll choose another one, say goodbye and finished.
Are you really that bored with life, that you stay on the platform of your former used OS to rant all the time? Is it really worth it? Have you not better things to do with your time? There are for sure a lot of more positive things you can do.
If you gain satisfaction from ranting and seeing everything negative. Rest assure, I take pity on you, that must be a sad world.

14 Likes

The fact that you can run terminal on the phone does not make the phone fully functional.

You can choose to hide and ignore fundamental issues with the phone, but that does not make the phone fully functional.

Having to routinely restart the phone to fix bluetooth does not make the phone fully functional.
Having to routinely restart the phone because it loses carrier signal and wifi and whatever else, does not make the phone fully functional.
Having your brand new Jolla C2 brick itself after the first interaction straight out of the box if you don’t perform the exact ritual needed to prevent that, does not make the phone fully functional.
Someone told me the camera doesn’t work, but the phone is fully functional.
Those are all issues which have existed for years.

Even if you still have yout ancient phones which a new user cannot buy anymore, even those phones are full of huge issues which you choose to ignore daily.
That is not what a fully functional phone is.

1 Like

Can you say something about battery life?

thanks for your post, quite new to the forum and I also keep wondering why the same people write the same stuff all over again in multiple threads with multiple posts. It seems super bizarre why they even care. E.g. I dont care about windows or lets say a xbox or a smart refrigerator, so why wouldI bother and waste time?

5 Likes

This topic is temporarily closed for at least 4 hours due to a large number of community flags.

Hmm, I thought that it was generally missing from any 64-bit build of the OS (because of some sacred binary being 32-bit or something).

On a 32-bit system the predictive text functionality used to be provided by the jolla-xt9 package:

[nemo@Sailfish ~]$ rpm -ql jolla-xt9
/usr/lib/qt5/qml
/usr/lib/qt5/qml/com
/usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/jolla
/usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/jolla/xt9
/usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/jolla/xt9/libjollaxt9plugin.so
/usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/jolla/xt9/qmldir
/usr/share/maliit/plugins
/usr/share/maliit/plugins/com
/usr/share/maliit/plugins/com/jolla
/usr/share/maliit/plugins/com/jolla/Xt9InputHandler.qml
[nemo@Sailfish ~]$ 

(libjollaxt9plugin.so is probably that 32-bit sacred binary).

There’s no jolla-xt9 on my X10 II, C2 or any other 64-bit Sailfish OS phone that I have access to, e.g.

[defaultuser@JollaC2 ~]$ zypper se xt9
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

S | Name                        | Summary                                         | Type
--+-----------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+--------
i | feature-xt9                 | Feature for supporting xt9                      | package
  | jolla-keyboard-settings-xt9 | Settings snippet for xt9 specific configuration | package
[defaultuser@JollaC2 ~]$ 

This jolla-keyboard-settings-xt9 thing is a simple QML file that doesn’t do much (it adds the “Clear learned words” button to the keyboard settings page).

Am I missing something? :thinking:

3 Likes

This topic was automatically opened after 40 hours.

There is a 64 bit version, I’m using it on 10 III currently. How do I check if it’s still provided by one of the repos?

1 Like

Predicive text is not available for devices installed/flashed after the Jolla->Jollyboys reorganization, only for devices updated via OTA from an earlier flash/install.
There are other threads aboit this, look for them.

4 Likes

Not really.

Charged to some high 90s percentage, used the phone way way more than usual, and had the battery run out the next evening. Something like 20 hours maybe.

Charged to a 100% yesterday evening, used it some, now at 70%. That was maybe 10-12 hours ago, most of which was sleep.

I’m expecting a daily recharge - and the phone charges fast enough - so compared to the 10iv, which probably had better battery life, but was slow as crap to charge up, I’m happy.

Completely out of the loop about what people expect and YMMV, but battery life should be “fine enough”. Maybe there’s something in the dedicated Fairphone thread.


Overall the FP5 feels miles apart from the myriad issues with the 10iv. Bluetooth (contact share, at least), calls that don’t echo through the universe, working camera, super snappy, etc etc.

Can’t wait to buy AAS for this if it really becomes a thing.

5 Likes

That sounds pretty good in my opinion. Thanx for information!

One thing I should add, though. I had Location on. Looking at PureMaps, GpsInfo and past experience, I can’t get a GPS fix if a satellite fell on my head.

Even the “use cell towers and all” setting didn’t give me anything in a timely time.

This may cause drain, and I disabled location now. Unsure if that has an effect and again YMMV.

Do I understand you right, that GPS is not working? Than The Fairphone Port would be no alternative for me.

I suggest taking this up in the actual thread, which I might do as well.

It’s somewhat possible this is a me-problem and not an fp5-problem.

I just can’t dig into it now, sorry.

1 Like

Gps at least on fp4 is working fine.
E.g :

“device only mode”

2 Likes

FWIW I have a variable amount of satellites seen, though not in use. Weird.

Compass works, at least.

Did you waited for almanach sync?

Xperia 10 here, GPS works much much better than before. After long time since last usage, in device only mode, it found position rather quick. GPSInfo did update, so my tweaks are gone - no problem. /vendor/etc/gps.conf was not changed during update so tweaks remain.

Thank you @Jolla !

I really dont know anything about gps.conf. Only thing I noticed is that the default config vastly differs between devices. I have an old nexus 7 tablet with only 2 uncommented lines in gps.conf (but very fast fix <30 sec, no agps) and the fairphone 4 one differs a lot to that (or e.g. an older xiaomi something). So not sure if some setting that (really) helps one device even affects another one