I had already some smaller ports running in the past. All from @piggz. Most of them were quite good, even though they all had a few minor issues. I had a Pro1, a rephone and at the moment I own the Volla Quintus.
I’m quite happy with my Xperia 10 II with a flip case running Sailfish OS 4.5 (with a few modifications of my own, mostly related to NFC). The predictive text input is missing, but otherwise it’s fully functional as a primary phone.
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As already mentioned, I know that the Xperia 10 II is working quite well but slow.
May I ask why predictive text input is missing. On the phone of my girlfriend this works and it has worked on mine as well.
Dude, you sound like a troll, spreading disinformation.
I dailydrive x10iii and x10ii before and had never ever any issues, while not using android/apple craps since YEARS!
What are U talking about?
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How much in hurry are you to get a phone?
Last 2 years have been complicated to navigate for Jolla, with transfer of ownership and so on.
Now these are kind of solved and the ship is sailing again and getting towards cruise speed.
So the result of the Jolla team’s work are arriving for the years to come, the last 2 years having caused delays. The C2 was a test for small batches of OEM supported Sailfish phone. The real deal will come with Jolla Phone Next Gen, now that the C2 test with low hardware and targeted for developpers has been quite sucessfull, and some lessons learned. The next gen phone will be produced IF Jolla gets at least 2000 pre-sales. So if you want to support the next gen phone, you could wait and register the pre sale when it comes. That will help the Next Gen phone project to happen, cause no 2000 pre sale, no next Gen phone. It is planned to be fully improoved, faster and expensiver that the C2. Likely happening in 2026.
If you cannot wait a year, then Nagara ports are almost ready, on very fast devices, if you dont need Android App Support.
If you need App Support and can wait for some month, the first stable release of Sailfish for Xperia IV and V is on the way. Haters are going to write it is never going to land, but i can write with confidence that the stable release is coming within a few month. Likely a few bugs or missing features in first release, that is going to be ironed along the years to come, as usual with thr Xperia Ports. Fingerprint scanner seems to be anyhow not going to be supported ever on those ports, so there is that. On the plus side Android Appsupport will be present (version 13) and those are fast devices.
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I haven’t noticed issues with hardware anything on the FP5 so far. Shot a couple of short clips of my kids but that’s it so far. Now mal is a seasoned maintainer, who’s great at this.
Re: Waydroid, we should machinate a campaign that Jolla would sell AAS licenses for any IMEI.
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edit: to the thread title question, yes, my device is full working within it’s technical limitations and my humble demands.
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Raine already wrote that they’re working on that. And that there is a communication with microG maintainer as well. But no timeline was given.
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as usual… , but good news! 
When i reached a similar frustration level i switched to GrapheneOS, my 10 II and others remain as toys in the desk when i am bored.
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I did the same few months ago, so I use both phones now. Why not have two phones? they work together and support each other in functionality so I have (with a small laptop) my whole office infrastructure in my handbag, including NAS, VPN, WLAN access point, 2 numbers, all apps that I like. So I’m happy at the moment.
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After waiting for more than 10y Jolla to provide something meaningful, I was confronted with even utter BS from the company. So finally I bought FP5 with Murena /e/OS and it feels like catapulted in the future.
I am very disappointed also from the community that is flagging and censoring and shutting down critics in the forum.
All together in the past 10+ years it (SFOS) is getting worse and worse and there is no light at the end of the tunnel. For now I can recommend the FP5 with /e/OS although a friend got the Volla and is also happy with it.
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Imho it is a tinker device with huge amount of useful side effects in daily life. I like the GUI, the ability to tinker and tweak, the human readable and editable code structure, that’s unique in the world, therefore I’m happy that it exists. Surely there is much need for improvement. We’ll see what future will bring.
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I am not in hurry anymore. I am just tired of BS. Subscription model! Insane! Audio issues, BT issues, integration with Dalvik issues … endless list of issues. But OK, I will not presume that you are lying, I just presume you are naive, but still leave a door open for the hope.
At the end I hate such rectifications … we had a hard time because ….
No one cares … the harm with Jolla was self inflicted and the damage too. It is actually utter stupidity, but I got silenced when thinking or saying so.
I am very very reserved, but if you bring something productive on the table I may reconsider trying SFOS again. For now it remains a closed chapter. Every 4y unfulfilled promises.
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Well … it doesn’t matter what the positive sides are. At the end it is not reliable and causes troubles, frustration etc. While some issues are solved , other issues pop up. I do not have the energy to deal with it and combined with the attitude of community and company … I finally took my decision.
In fact the only Use Case that was binding me to SFOS was the ability to use an old software to sync my PIM data with the PC over BT. It took a while to find a proper solution for the android phone and the /e/OS spares me the idiotic exploit of behavior tracking by Google and Samsung.
So at the end I think it was a good decision.
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Pessimists are always happy, because the world is either confirming our beliefs, or exceeding our expectations. Optimists on the other hand, live lives of desperation and disappointment.
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Can we please stay on topic. Thank you.
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Then I wish you good luck for the future and as I remember it was often you some time ago who gave me useful hints when I had problems or questions and so I want to say many thanks and good luck and Hare Krishna!
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I like your comment, because I am optimist, but I am also pragmatic one and there comes a point in life when you say enough is enough. Perhaps the reaching of this point depends on the level of optimism and the readiness to invest more (because the FP5 was 2.5 more expensive than the last Xperia I bought).
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