When you have many profitable businesses you don’t need to make money on every single one of them.
Pixel is a showcase device and mostly targeted to convert iOS users to android users. This is a win for google, not to get marketshare from existing android users that already use their services.
Other than that, I think 7 and 8 series sales hold 50% of the whole pixel sales so they finally got some traction in the market.
But the OHA (Open Handset Alliance 1) is dead since 2011
Hmm, I assumed it was still alive, but its need may have been very much diminished. Seems it is not needed anymore ?
Clearly, but based on this logic also Microsoft would still develope mobile Windows and sell it on Nokia phones, isn’t it? And Microsoft has more capital than Alphabet. Do you think that the shareholders like expensive “showcases”?
But the difference is that pixel is selling and only seeing exponential growth in sales, MS WP didn’t.
And the billions invested to marketing were wasted.
Still the sales are neglectable in comparison with Top 10 players. And they even do not sell officially in China !!! And on the forum some people say, is also not available in some European countries. Kind of expensive for a showcase, cause in that business nobody has years to wait. They are not able to close the gap between Gemini and ClosedAI (sorry OpenAI), fur sure they don’t believe they will become a big player in the smartphone industry.
You are forgetting that the top 9 out of 10 players are using their OS and services.
Pixel is a retention device for devs and mod enthusiasts, and also a conversion device for the number one player and the only competitor, Apple.
Revenue is not the only KPI that is relevant if you are dominating the market.
Gotta say, I never saw any kind of marketing in relation to WinMobile 10, here in the UK.
It seemed to me as though they were being made to wind it down, by buying in the Lumia branch of Nokia and self-destructing it.
And now our favourite duo of apple and google have no competition at all to worry about, practically-speaking.
Understood, thank you!
In other words, they are in the Jesus business! 
User conversion, retention and new user acquisition is the most important part in any business. Positive revenue will follow with the proper strategy.
Is it the first time that you hear a company is losing money (millions or billions) and it is expected to be profitable in X amount of years?
If yes, you would be surprised if you check let’s say Spotify.
Alphabet is not anymore a startup company, and they cannot afford to lose money. Now they have institutional investors profit oriented with decision votes. I do not understand their strategy with the HW, cause they were not successful in the past also. But if they want to be successful I would expect to have chinese market in view. Anyway, I don’t care about google, they can fail/succeed…their problem.
Well then, I can tell you that
But if you want to think there there is a conspiracy behind it or that they do gods work, feel free.
I have nothing to add on that
I’ll just leave this here. Anyone thinking they know how internet-based companies make money, and believing users matter to them should read it:
Based on what I read here and in other threads, it is a time-consuming and difficult path to port Sailfish to unsupported devices and get it running. Even for the experienced ones.
Will it be easier to accomplish this on a Xperia 1 mark vi than on a Samsung device?
Sorry if this is a stupid question from a non-developer n00b
Sony has the advantage that they provide AOSP with drivers in their open devices program. As far as I understand this is a good starting point
I wished Sailfish was ported on a more sustainable device instead of every two years on another one. On Gigaset’s e.g. Their phones can be opened on the back, inside parts are screwed to fix them. Gigaset sells spare batteries. The phones are sturdy and have a good size. These phones are mid range, not high end. By community members a port has been made (Piggz) yet it would be nice if this became official.
Yes I agree, in general I like the Xperias, but I prefer bigger devices. C2 is no option fir me, no OLED no buy.
Pixel phones have disadvantages that many here won’t like: they are Google’s and they don’t have a mini jack nor a card slot. If you want to listen you need Google’s bluetooth earbuds. Complete with location tracking.
I have tried install Sony AOSP multiple times on Debian and Ubuntu and always install fails at some point. Device is Xperia 10 lll.
Have you been using USB2 or USB3 ports to connect the phone? It is known issue that the flashing can fail if you are not using USB2 port or USB2-hub in the USB3 port when flashing.
Both USB ports tried and many different cables too.
I’ve been thinking if my computer is too ancient: Intel© Core™ i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz × 4, memory 32 GiB.